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Deanglow
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04-13-2009, 06:35 PM
Post subject: oh hello there flop 400NL
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Villain is 12/9 and never seen him get out of line. He doubled up 5 handed when I 3bet the button from the SB and he 4bet from the BB with AA and won vs my QQ.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4.00 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
saw flop
MP2 ($561.80)
MP3 ($426)
CO ($419.10)
Button ($406.95)
SB ($578.50)
BB ($92.35)
Hero (UTG) ($400)
UTG+1 ($760)
MP1 ($400)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with A , A
Hero bets $16, UTG+1 calls $16, 2 folds, MP3 calls $16, 4 folds
Flop: ($54) 7, 6, K (3 players)
Hero bets $36, UTG+1 raises to $102, 1 fold, Hero
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ATOTHEC101
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well you are a 60/40 dog at best, likely just drawing to another club but I shove anyway cos fuck you I have aa with the nut flush draw.
edit: Also this censoring of f.uck sucks ass.
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ChrisBCritter
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Would he refrain from 3-betting KK to your UTG raise? Doubtful, so we're left with a made flush(QJs really doubtful though) or 77,66 as his most likely made-hand holdings. Other than that he has AK here a lot IMO, and I think we are just crushing his range over all, with re-draws. Get it in, and happily for the most part!
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Hey knucklehead! Bonk!
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Deanglow
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I think AK is one of the few hands he can't have. KK is most likely imo. Don't know if he folds 66-77 preflop
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pokerfan
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35% chance to win this pot against his sets. I doubt that he raised with AK without any clubs.
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ATOTHEC101
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agree he never has ak here.
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daven
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he can't have AK cos hero has Ac and he's not raising without it.
I like calling
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CBAT
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Originally Posted by daven
he can't have AK cos hero has Ac and he's not raising without it.
I like calling
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Bingo.
Get it in.
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surviva316
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a shove would be risking 350 for a shot at 800, and you have 11 outs over two streets, making that play BARELY not profitable before taking fold equity into account. i still don't know if this 12/9 "solid" players fold equity is even big enough to make up for this margin though. a call is also barely above the right pot odds, and would put you OOP in a tough spot so that option doesn't thrill me. i think a push is going to be very marginally +EV but is probably your best option
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surviva316
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can we put 76s in his range?
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pokerfan
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Originally Posted by surviva316
a shove would be risking 350 for a shot at 800,
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odds is definitely not this good. A shove would be risking $348 for a shot at $468.
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pokerfan
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Its not a 3 bet pot. so i like to call and reevaluate on the turn. A shove is a mistake if we can narrow his range down to sets.
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surviva316
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by surviva316
a shove would be risking 350 for a shot at 800,
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odds is definitely not this good. A shove would be risking $348 for a shot at $468. |
i calculate using percentages--not odds.
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I just wanted to share singing vaginas. |
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2ndline.4thstreet
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Originally Posted by pokerfan
Its not a 3 bet pot. so i like to call and reevaluate on the turn. A shove is a mistake if we can narrow his range down to sets.
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I agree. He's calling the shove and I don't really like a coin flip here.
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Ship it.
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wakeup
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why cnat he have AK?
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by wakeup
why cnat he have AK?
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This
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Renton
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i think its probably a very close fold
if he can have a bluff frequency or AK at all then its a shove, but i doubt he can.
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villain has set every time
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surviva316
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Originally Posted by iopq
villain has set every time
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maybe that's what he wants you to think! mwahahahahaha
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I just wanted to share singing vaginas. |
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birdman417
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i realize i dont even come close to playing this level of poker nor do i even think i am anything but a fish to most FTR regulars, but could someone be a little more specific than fnord and jessyj why AK is not in villians range?
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birdman417
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ok...
Daven wrote..
"he can't have AK cos hero has Ac and he's not raising without it.
I like calling"
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Da GOAT
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Originally Posted by Renton
i think its probably a very close fold
if he can have a bluff frequency or AK at all then its a shove, but i doubt he can.
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This,
been reading down the thread thinking it.
Opp is never ever ever bluffing and is v unlikely imo to be raising AK if he has it, he is also raising before another is to act.
It a fold here, very tough at the tables to fold tho.
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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Deanglow
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i obviously shoved and he folded so wtf
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Fnord
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Deanglow
i obviously shoved and he folded so wtf
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New flash, online nits who don't go busto bluff sometimes!
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Da GOAT
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lol
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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