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samsonite2100
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05-19-2006, 07:33 PM
Post subject: OESD + Flush Draw on Turn
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Table Name Hand ID Game Stakes
The Skin Game 8161241-57004 Holdem No Limit $0.25/$0.50
[May 19 15:21:33] : Hand Start.
[May 19 15:21:33] : Seat 1 : vik250 has $37.98
[May 19 15:21:33] : Seat 2 : samsonite21 has $34.81
[May 19 15:21:33] : Seat 3 : JHarr1219 has $25
[May 19 15:21:33] : Seat 4 : pocketpairK has $56.78
[May 19 15:21:33] : Seat 5 : deviantd has $54.04
[May 19 15:21:33] : Seat 6 : rossron has $63.38
[May 19 15:21:33] : Seat 8 : Argyll has $32.97
[May 19 15:21:33] : Seat 9 : rubys has $38.53
[May 19 15:21:33] : vik250 is the dealer.
[May 19 15:21:34] : samsonite21 posted small blind.
[May 19 15:21:34] : JHarr1219 posted big blind.
[May 19 15:21:34] : Game [57004] started with 8 players.
[May 19 15:21:34] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[May 19 15:21:34] : Seat 2 : samsonite21 has :Th:
[May 19 15:21:39] : pocketpairK called $0.50
[May 19 15:21:41] : deviantd called $0.50
[May 19 15:21:42] : rossron folded.
[May 19 15:21:42] : Argyll called $0.50
[May 19 15:21:45] : rubys called $0.50
[May 19 15:21:45] : vik250 called $0.50
[May 19 15:21:47] : samsonite21 called $0.25
[May 19 15:21:52] : JHarr1219 checked.
[May 19 15:21:53] : Dealing flop.
[May 19 15:21:53] : Board cards  :Jh:
[May 19 15:21:56] : samsonite21 checked.
[May 19 15:21:58] : JHarr1219 checked.
[May 19 15:22:03] : pocketpairK bet $2
[May 19 15:22:06] : deviantd called $2
[May 19 15:22:06] : Argyll folded.
[May 19 15:22:11] : rubys folded.
[May 19 15:22:12] : vik250 called $2
[May 19 15:22:24] : samsonite21 called $2
[May 19 15:22:25] : JHarr1219 folded.
[May 19 15:22:26] : Dealing turn.
[May 19 15:22:26] : Board cards  :Jh:
[May 19 15:22:36] : samsonite21 checked.
[May 19 15:22:39] : pocketpairK bet $1
[May 19 15:22:43] : deviantd called $1
[May 19 15:22:44] : vik250 called $1
[May 19 15:22:59] : It's your turn.
[May 19 15:22:59] : samsonite21 has 10 seconds to respond.
[May 19 15:23:03] : samsonite21 called $1
[May 19 15:23:03] : Dealing river.
[May 19 15:23:03] : Board cards  :Jh: :Qd:
[May 19 15:23:19] : It's your turn.
[May 19 15:23:19] : samsonite21 has 10 seconds to respond.
[May 19 15:23:24] : samsonite21 bet $7
[May 19 15:23:39] : pocketpairK has 10 seconds to respond.
[May 19 15:23:40] : pocketpairK folded.
[May 19 15:23:42] : deviantd called $7
[May 19 15:23:42] : vik250 folded.
[May 19 15:23:42] : Showdown!
Haven't run into this situation too much. I guess you raise the turn, eh? How much do you value bet on the river?
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EricE
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River bet is fine. Your straight is well hidden though so occasionaly I would all in there hoping for a bluff response.
Otherwise, given the pot, I wouldnt expect a bigger bet to be called often enough to make it worth it.
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dalecooper
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I wouldn't raise the turn. With just one card to come, even a great draw like this one is a dog to most made hands. You don't want to get all the money in as a dog and you probably won't want to bluff the river when you miss, so why get cute? If this were limit I might raise to try to get a lot of people trapped in for an extra bet, but in no limit you're taking your life into your own hands raising there. River's fine.
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givememyleg
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WHO YA GONNA CALL?!??
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People sure know how to bet to "kill" your odds.
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samsonite2100
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True that. It was a tough crew.
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http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...oker-35035.htm
Ok, so my OESD + flush was on flop, not turn; but this is how I like to play them... I would raise this turn and get a bit more money in the pot (do something donkish like raising to $3-4) or raise large to get some FE (say $6-7)...
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Fnord
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I might open push or check/raise this river. With the over-card Queen I'm more inclined to push.
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