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rivercrest13
Old 07-09-2005, 06:24 AM     Post subject: Odds Application #1 (permalink)  

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This dude was pissed, but it looks to me like I had the odds on every street. Almost even odds on the flop re-raise, and then after I picked up more outs on the turn, the implied odds looked good. It just felt wrong though. I almost raised the turn, but I figured since I was getting decent implied odds and I put this guy on a set, I didn't think there was much chance of him folding. What would you do?

***** Hand History for Game 2333719276 *****
0/0 TexasHTGameTable (NL) - Sat Jul 09 01:22:34 EDT 2005
Table Table 37571 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: philwillcall ( $43.67)
Seat 2: wilipuk ( $26.05)
Seat 3: byrne2000 ( $28)
Seat 5: MiamiTony ( $18.9)
Seat 6: Morphinosis ( $25)
Seat 7: Mo_Aces ( $27.35)
Seat 8: shakedownst ( $27.09)
Seat 9: masse999 ( $25)
Seat 10: rivercrest13 ( $79.26)
philwillcall posts small blind (0.1)
wilipuk posts big blind (0.25)
Morphinosis posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to rivercrest13 [ 6s, 8s ]
byrne2000 raises (1) to 1
MiamiTony folds.
Morphinosis folds.
Mo_Aces folds.
shakedownst folds.
masse999 folds.
rivercrest13 calls (1)
philwillcall calls (0.9)
wilipuk folds.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 3h, Js, 5s ]
philwillcall checks.
byrne2000 bets (3)
rivercrest13 calls (3)
philwillcall raises (9) to 9
byrne2000 folds.
rivercrest13 calls (6)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 7d ]
philwillcall bets (15)
rivercrest13 calls (15)
** Dealing River ** : [ 4c ]
philwillcall bets (18.67)
philwillcall is all-In.
rivercrest13 calls (18.67)
Creating Main Pot with $88.84 with philwillcall
** Summary **
Main Pot: $88.84 | | Rake: $3
Board: [ 3h Js 5s 7d 4c ]
philwillcall balance $0, lost $43.67 [ Kc Jc ] [ a pair of jacks -- Kc,Jc,Js,7d,5s ]
wilipuk balance $25.8, lost $0.25 (folded)
byrne2000 balance $24, lost $4 (folded)
AdvairDiskus balance $25, sits out
MiamiTony balance $18.9, didn't bet (folded)
Morphinosis balance $24.75, lost $0.25 (folded)
Mo_Aces balance $27.35, didn't bet (folded)
shakedownst balance $27.09, didn't bet (folded)
masse999 balance $25, didn't bet (folded)
rivercrest13 balance $124.43, bet $43.67, collected $88.84, net +$45.17 [ 6s 8s ] [ a straight, four to eight -- 8s,7d,6s,5s,4c ]
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journey075
Old 07-09-2005, 06:41 AM #2 (permalink)  
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your flop calls are retarded.


sorry to be so harsh.
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Old 07-09-2005, 07:10 AM #3 (permalink)  
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preflop call is bad...

with more callers before you i might try it.

I like the flop raise, trying to take control of the hand, after all he could just be followup betting.

The turn gives you juicy options, but the odds are not quite there, however, throw in implied odds and its on the line, depends, this is the kinda play that creates alot of variance, but has more potential profit.

Preflop call is bad, but I like the rest.


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Old 07-09-2005, 04:27 PM #4 (permalink)  

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I agree that the first flop call is bad, but on the second one, I was getting odds to call. Pot was laying me 3:1 which is just right for a flush draw, as I understand it. Am i wrong?
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Old 07-09-2005, 06:02 PM #5 (permalink)  
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preflop call is bad...

with more callers before you i might try it.

I like the flop raise, trying to take control of the hand, after all he could just be followup betting.

The turn gives you juicy options, but the odds are not quite there, however, throw in implied odds and its on the line, depends, this is the kinda play that creates alot of variance, but has more potential profit.

Preflop call is bad, but I like the rest.


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he never raised the flop. he called a pot sized bet and a 3x raise.
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Old 07-09-2005, 06:03 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I agree that the first flop call is bad, but on the second one, I was getting odds to call. Pot was laying me 3:1 which is just right for a flush draw, as I understand it. Am i wrong?

yes cause youre assuming a free turn card.
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Old 07-09-2005, 06:06 PM #7 (permalink)  
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you do all this without even a nut flush draw. what if you hit on the turn? your hand can easily be conterfeitted w/ a 4 flush on the river.

youre chasing an extremely vulnerable hand w/ terrible odds to hit.



on the flop you have 19% chance to hit on the turn.
on the turn you have 35% chance to hit on the river.


not once did you ever have odds to be in this hand. fold preflop. fold flop. fold turn.

then again, he went a bit nuts with TPJK.
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Old 07-09-2005, 08:12 PM #8 (permalink)  
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never had the odds, should have folded preflop. not nearly enough people in the hand to be calling an utg raise with not even a suited connector.
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copa
Old 07-10-2005, 02:22 AM #9 (permalink)  

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calling the raise with 68s was a bad play, it was 3xbb and you werent even a blind

i dont think anyone is trying to be harsh here, just trying to help
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