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Old 08-16-2006, 11:22 PM     Post subject: nothing major, just a hand history? #1 (permalink)  
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MP2 ($4)
CO ($5.11)
Button ($4.88)
SB ($3.90)
BB ($10.66)
UTG ($3.86)
UTG+1 ($9.90)
Hero ($9.98)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with , .


1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.05, Hero calls $0.05, 1 fold, CO calls $0.05, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.25) , , (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $0.25, CO raises to $0.5, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls $0.25.

Turn: ($1.25) (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

River: ($1.25) (2 players)
Hero bets $0.75, CO raises to $1.5, Hero calls $0.75.

Final Pot: $4.25
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Old 08-16-2006, 11:44 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I think you played this just fine. When he checked the turn you must have put him on a flush draw, hence your call on the river. Nothing really much to say about this one.
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Old 08-17-2006, 12:20 AM #3 (permalink)  
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This is why you fold preflop, so you don't have to deal with situations like these. As played I think it's fine.
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Old 08-17-2006, 12:24 AM #4 (permalink)  
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This hand kind of shows the reverse implied odds of limping Axs out of position and playing top pair...be glad he didn't extract more of your chips.

If I limped in pre flop, I'm really looking for two pair+ or a flush draw/flush. I would've probably check/folded this flop and bet a blank turn if it checked through, but betting at the flop is fine too with the draws out.

If you call the flop min raise and think a draw is likely, I think you should lead 1/2 pot on the turn and fold to a raise, to deny a free card and get some info. But checking is not bad either to control pot size.

Calling the river min raise is not too good either because you only beat a bluff really.
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Old 08-17-2006, 12:34 AM #5 (permalink)  
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This hand kind of shows the reverse implied odds of limping Axs out of position and playing top pair...be glad he didn't extract more of your chips.

If I limped in pre flop, I'm really looking for two pair+ or a flush draw/flush. I would've probably check/folded this flop and bet a blank turn if it checked through, but betting at the flop is fine too with the draws out.

If you call the flop min raise and think a draw is likely, I think you should lead 1/2 pot on the turn and fold to a raise, to deny a free card and get some info. But checking is not bad either to control pot size.

Calling the river min raise is not too good either because you only beat a bluff really.
Isn't villain's turn check kind of fishy? The only hands that would check behind are draws or maybe weak aces.. I think the river minraise may be a poor attempt to bluff hero out?
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Old 08-17-2006, 12:40 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Isn't villain's turn check kind of fishy? The only hands that would check behind are draws or maybe weak aces.. I think the river minraise may be a poor attempt to bluff hero out?
It's highly fishy, but just looking at hero's pot odds, .75 for 4.25 = 18%, I think villain isn't bluffing that often, especially with a "call me" raise. I haven't played 5nl for a long time so maybe I'm off, but imo min raises on the river are strong hands 90% and bluffs 10% or less especially cuz I remember they slow play there too much.
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Old 08-17-2006, 01:17 AM #7 (permalink)  
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I'd probably just fold on the flop. If I call, I'm not investing another dime unless I spike an 8 or something.

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Old 08-17-2006, 01:31 AM #8 (permalink)  
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This is why you fold preflop, so you don't have to deal with situations like these. As played I think it's fine.
I thought limping with Axs was ok in a cash game?
sometimes even KTs?K9s, or even K2s?
small PP?22-88?

or am I playing to loose?
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Old 08-17-2006, 01:46 AM #9 (permalink)  
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It is ok, but you need to be good post flop, meaning have a plan for how you will play it. A plan that worked great for me at 5nl was to limp in, then bet huge if I spiked two pair+ or made a flush.

Playing one pair aggressive with A8 usually makes you lose a lot when behind and win little when ahead, which is what reverse implied odds are.
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