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Old 06-24-2006, 05:00 AM     Post subject: Not sure what to make of this... #1 (permalink)  
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I am only 4 hands in at this table, so I have no reads whatsoever. I mean, this bet is so outlandish it almost makes me think he really does have Q's or 8's. Who would make a bet like this with so little in the pot?

PokerStars Game #5341351469: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2006/06/23 - 15:00:25 (ET)
Table 'Opik' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: LionDada ($33.55 in chips)
Seat 3: gburg9 ($24.65 in chips)
Seat 4: Lil St0rM ($12.45 in chips)
Seat 5: mazeman78 ($32.10 in chips)
Seat 6: BeatPurdue ($29.80 in chips)
Seat 7: jerichoholic ($25.95 in chips)
Seat 9: golzman3 ($19.65 in chips)
mazeman78: posts small blind $0.10
BeatPurdue: posts big blind $0.25
bobobdave: sits out
AMisPeChoS: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BeatPurdue [7d 7s]
jerichoholic: folds
golzman3: folds
LionDada: raises $1 to $1.25
gburg9: folds
Lil St0rM: calls $1.25
mazeman78: folds
BeatPurdue: calls $1
*** FLOP *** [7c Qc 8d]
BeatPurdue: bets $2.50
LionDada: raises $29.80 to $32.30 and is all-in
Lil St0rM: folds
BeatPurdue: ??????
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Old 06-24-2006, 05:30 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 Two pair, overpair or a flush draw or bigger draw most likely. In general, they'd be slowplaying an overset here.
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Old 06-24-2006, 05:41 AM #3 (permalink)  
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With no straight and no flush possible on that board, you gotta call. If your beat, your beat. And if you are beat, you aren't totally dead - there is 1 out at the worst.

See my set of Jacks thread for a tougher call.

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Old 06-24-2006, 06:29 AM #4 (permalink)  
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$100 NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, June 24, 02:45:11 ET 2006
Table Table 96419 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: austinespn ( $45.21 )
Seat 4: brian09 ( $47.82 )
Seat 5: tomtiger28 ( $122.59 )
Seat 6: SanteeSally ( $87.05 )
Seat 8: Vonnegut_00 ( $86.72 )
Seat 9: dennisjr42 ( $172.25 )
Seat 1: JaredTaskin ( $95.50 )
Seat 7: crankechick ( $34.80 )
Seat 10: bruinsrp04 ( $54.95 )
Seat 3: phillyd7015 ( $71.91 )
tomtiger28 posts small blind [$0.50].
SanteeSally posts big blind [$1].
phillyd7015 posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to JaredTaskin [ 7c 7s ]
tomtiger28: :.)
crankechick folds.
Vonnegut_00 folds.
dennisjr42 folds.
tomtiger28: :>)
bruinsrp04 raises [$4].
JaredTaskin calls [$4].
austinespn folds.
phillyd7015 folds.
brian09 calls [$4].
tomtiger28 folds.
>You have options at Table 96113 Table!.
SanteeSally folds.
>You have options at Table 96315 Table!.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7h, 4s, 2c ]
>You have options at Table 95799 Table!.
bruinsrp04 checks.
>You have options at Table 96159 Table!.
JaredTaskin checks.
brian09 is all-In.
bruinsrp04 folds.
JaredTaskin calls [$43.82].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4d ]
** Dealing River ** [ Jc ]
JaredTaskin shows [ 7c, 7s ] a full house, Sevens full of fours.
brian09 doesn't show [ 5h, 5s ] two pairs, fives and fours.
JaredTaskin wins $99.14 from the main pot with a full house, Sevens full of fours.
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Old 06-24-2006, 07:48 AM #5 (permalink)  
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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Old 06-24-2006, 02:23 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Old 06-24-2006, 02:37 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Old 06-24-2006, 05:04 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by lonnie
With no straight and no flush possible on that board, you gotta call. If your beat, your beat. And if you are beat, you aren't totally dead - there is 1 out at the worst.
I totally agree that I should call, but after this post I have to show the results just for **** and giggles.

Lil St0rM: folds
BeatPurdue: calls $26.05 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [7c Qc 8d] [7h]
*** RIVER *** [7c Qc 8d 7h] [Tc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
BeatPurdue: shows [7d 7s] (four of a kind, Sevens)
LionDada: mucks hand
BeatPurdue collected $57.95 from pot
LionDada leaves the table
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $60.95 | Rake $3
Board [7c Qc 8d 7h Tc]
Seat 1: LionDada mucked [Qd Qh]
Seat 3: gburg9 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Lil St0rM (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: mazeman78 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: BeatPurdue (big blind) showed [7d 7s] and won ($57.95) with four of a kind, Sevens
Seat 7: jerichoholic folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: golzman3 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Old 06-24-2006, 05:14 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Old 06-24-2006, 06:28 PM #10 (permalink)  
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Old 06-24-2006, 08:35 PM #11 (permalink)  
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Im never really sure how to play these and usually if I am OOP against the PFRer with a set on the flop I check to him expecting to get another bet that depending on the board I can either call or raise. Would checking to the raiser be better here?
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Old 06-24-2006, 09:43 PM #12 (permalink)  
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 betting into pfrer is usually best imo. ppl remember it when u show down the set and u can often use it to bet into them in later hands. Plus ppl usually react to being bet into with a "fuck you pussy" mentality (except the nits).
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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Old 06-24-2006, 10:22 PM #13 (permalink)  
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Old 06-24-2006, 11:10 PM #14 (permalink)  
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betting into pfrer is usually best imo. ppl remember it when u show down the set and u can often use it to bet into them in later hands. Plus ppl usually react to being bet into with a "fuck you pussy" mentality (except the nits).
If Im the PFRer and its checked to me I am usually betting the flop. If somebody leads into me I typically will fold hands that completely missed or raise my hands that hit. If the board is incredibly unlikely to hit my opponent or they make a really weak bet then I will raise regardless of my holding. I think this is how a lot of people would play it as well, maybe even fold more than I do. So in this situation wouldnt checking be more profitable? You get a cbet out of hands that missed and hands that hit are typically going to call your raise as well.
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