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KingLizard
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06-21-2006, 06:19 AM
Post subject: Not sure but I think these were played OK
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#1 (permalink)
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Flush
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 296
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Just sat down ... enjoying my extended downswing. Trying to play correctly so what do you think? I had no reads on either player but table seemed rather tight and passive.
PokerRoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25BB (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
UTG+2 ($21.85)
MP1 ($4.60)
MP2 ($27.30)
MP3 ($15.80)
CO ($19.50)
Hero ($24.60)
SB ($18.85)
BB ($6.65)
UTG =#A500AF(villain)/ ($17.25)
UTG+1 ($21.00)
Preflop: Hero is Button with K , K .
UTG =#A500AF(villain)/ calls $0.25, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls $0.25, 4 folds, Hero raises to $1.5, 2 folds, UTG =#A500AF(villain)/ calls $1.25, UTG+2 folds.
Flop: ($3.65) 2 , 9 , 4 (2 players)
villain checks, Hero bets $3.5, villain calls $3.50.
Turn: ($10.65) T (2 players)
villain checks, Hero bets $19.6 (All-In), villain calls $12.25 (All-In).
River: ($42.50) 8 (2 players, 2 all-in)
Final Pot: $42.50
PokerRoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25BB (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
SB ($19.45)
Hero ($24.75)
UTG ($24.50)
UTG+1 ($24.75)
UTG+2 ($24.85)
MP1 ($26.15)
MP2 ($15.40)
MP3 ($2.50)
CO ($26.05)
Button ($11.20)
Preflop: Hero is BB with A , K .
UTG calls $0.25, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.25, 3 folds, Button raises to $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.75, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.75, MP1 calls $0.75.
Flop: ($4.40) 2 , A , 8 (4 players)
Hero bets $3.5, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, Button raises to $7, Hero raises to $18.5, Button calls $3.20 (All-In).
Turn: ($33.10) 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)
River: ($33.10) J (2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: $33.10
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Turska
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06-21-2006, 07:01 AM
Post subject: My comments
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#2 (permalink)
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Flush
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 254
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Hand 1:
Preflop OK. preflop call by villain indicates small-mid pockets.
Flop bet ok. Yellow light to get call.
Turn bet is donk play. No reason to go allin here. I am already
alerted by flop call because there is no draws so only reason
to call is set. I would bet 5 and check river.
Hand 2.
Small stack nightmare?
Preflop ok:
I cant put button on hand but it could be anything from
two pair to fl. Against short stack I think I would have called
too. As played I would put villain of fl draw and call him down.
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freechus9
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Full House
Join Date: Jan 2006
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I think they are both fine.
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My sig is too much for you to handle.
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flotu
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06-21-2006, 08:17 AM
Post subject: Re: My comments
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#4 (permalink)
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Flush
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 304
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Turska
Hand 1:
Turn bet is donk play. No reason to go allin here. I am already
alerted by flop call because there is no draws so only reason
to call is set. I would bet 5 and check river.
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The Villain started the hand with $17 so I don't think this is a donk play at all. This is NL25 and we will get called by a lot of inferior hands.
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Turska
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06-21-2006, 08:52 AM
Post subject: Against unknown player
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#5 (permalink)
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Flush
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 254
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I play 25 NL at ongame and I consider it a donk play
giving that every single table has half people notorious
nut campers.
So without a read it is a donk play no matter what. If u know
your opponent not to be a set farmet I think it might be ok.
I myself still would not play that hand like that. I like
to stack people like that myself
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Turska
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06-21-2006, 08:52 AM
Post subject: Against unknown player
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#6 (permalink)
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Flush
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 254
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I play 25 NL at ongame and I consider it a donk play
giving that every single table has half people notorious
nut campers.
So without a read it is a donk play no matter what. If u know
your opponent not to be a set farmet I think it might be ok.
I myself still would not play that hand like that. I like
to stack people like that myself
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freechus9
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Full House
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I'd say most of the time he is good here. You can't say that a check/call on a harmless board means a set without any certainty. He could have 9x, any low straight draw, or a pocket pair. A set is possible, definately, but a c/c line on the flop hardly points to one. At 25NL I think you are good most of the time.
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My sig is too much for you to handle.
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IowaSkinsFan
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Oct 2004
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I like hand 1 all in on turn if you feel villan is willing to call with AQ, AK, A9, or mid pocket pair. I think he will, because some people at these stakes feel like your line is an A high bluff.
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KingLizard
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Flush
Join Date: Dec 2005
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The allin bets were a result of recent suckouts and a slight degree of tilt. As "usual", I was right ...
Hand one - villain had
Hand two - villain had
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cardsman1992
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Full House
Join Date: Dec 2005
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You were well ahead when the money went in in both cases. Nh sir.
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KingLizard
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Flush
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 296
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by cardsman1992
You were well ahead when the money went in in both cases. Nh sir.
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Thanks. It just hurt to get stacked on both.
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Turska
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06-22-2006, 05:21 AM
Post subject: Bad beats
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#12 (permalink)
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Flush
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 254
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HHs are always read-spesific. Thats why I would played
hand 1 cautiously against unknown player. After I had
labeled villain as a fish,lag, tag or whatever I could choose
my play.
I dont want to play for stacks with top or overpair until
I have some kind of read. AA is rare exception here.
But Im kind of weak/passive anyway
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relayer
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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Both of those rivers make me want to throw up...
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