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Kiriath
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08-16-2005, 02:13 PM
Post subject: Not a hand history as much as a stragegy!
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Straight
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Denmark
Posts: 216
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Hey I got this wierd idea about how to play big PPs like AA KK and QQ.
Heres the problem: U get AA early pos, u bet preflop, someone calls, board comes k 9 3 two spades, u got no spades. U bet pot to protect ur hand, someone calls, turn is 5 of diamonds, now what ??? Heres the problem, u should bet pot again to protect ur hand, but if u do u more or less commits urself to the pot. Now if u dont bet u give a free card in case the other guy got a draw, and that might be a potential disaster. So what do u do ? Well most of the time I bet, and pay the set off.
Sooo...
How about making a standard preflop raise, and then on the flop, instead of betting 70-100% of the pot, bet 120-150% ?
If ppl call that u know they got a piece of it, and u dont have to bet big on turn to chase out potentila draws.
So on the turn u can bet small, or just check it down depending on reads.
Of couse u get more vulnerable against two pairs, since they usually reraise u back right on the flop, but two pairs aint usually the hand that destacks me, sets reraising the turn or river are.
I think im gonna give this a short, im gonna report here how it goes!
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DimitriT
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Full House
Join Date: May 2005
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overbetting the flop when you are clearly ahead is a mistake.
The interesting thing about an opp. on the draw is that you WANT him to call when the odds are not in his favor. You WANT him to make a mistake. It's +EV when that happens. You have to get used to this idea: It's not about pots, its about EV.
So what's the right amount to bet if you WANT your opp. to call? 50% of draws get bad odds if you make them pay 3:1 for the next card. That's actually a 1/2 pot sized bet. But, to make their mistake even worse (and to cover the other 30% which are profitable at 3:1 and for implied odds) betting 2/3 the pot is a good idea. If you feel they may CALL more (and if you are inexperienced at reading a made draw), bet the full pot. But.. DON"T BET TO PUSH THEM OUT! BET TO GET THEM TO MAKE A MISTAKE!!
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Kiriath
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Straight
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Denmark
Posts: 216
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Originally Posted by DimitriT
overbetting the flop when you are clearly ahead is a mistake.
The interesting thing about an opp. on the draw is that you WANT him to call when the odds are not in his favor. You WANT him to make a mistake. It's +EV when that happens. You have to get used to this idea: It's not about pots, its about EV.
So what's the right amount to bet if you WANT your opp. to call? 50% of draws get bad odds if you make them pay 3:1 for the next card. That's actually a 1/2 pot sized bet. But, to make their mistake even worse (and to cover the other 30% which are profitable at 3:1 and for implied odds) betting 2/3 the pot is a good idea. If you feel they may CALL more (and if you are inexperienced at reading a made draw), bet the full pot. But.. DON"T BET TO PUSH THEM OUT! BET TO GET THEM TO MAKE A MISTAKE!!
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hehe oups, guess thats some good points again. Maybe I just need to pratice laying down hands when I know ppl hit theyr draws... Doh lol =D
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a500lbgorilla
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: This room is a good place to be
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You'd pay off better hands too easily and only commit yourself sooner if they call the flop.
You want people to call with worse hands, that's where the money is made.
-'rilla
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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ensign_lee
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: The University of TEXAS at Austin
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It also makes it harder for you to continuation bet, because good people will know that when you overbet, you have a hand, and when you don't, you don't.
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