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r8ed
Old 12-09-2005, 04:44 AM     Post subject: No way I fold here #1 (permalink)  
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No read on this guy.
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0/0 Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) - Thu Dec 08 22:18:04 EST 2005
Table Table 65826 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: sardisguy ( $30.20)
Seat 2: khrazy8 ( $7.95)
Seat 3: Wellington22 ( $24.65)
Seat 4: JohnnytotheC ( $47.30)
Seat 5: Bdth3 ( $4.90)
Seat 6: ancalimon ( $23.40)
Seat 7: XAAAX1 ( $9.55)
Seat 8: monster5030 ( $30)
Seat 9: GooglyPower ( $40.80)
Seat 10: jandje ( $29.20)
ancalimon posts small blind (0.10)
XAAAX1 posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to jandje [ Ah, As ]
monster5030 raises (0.50) to 0.50
jandje raises (1.50) to 1.50
khrazy8 folds.
Wellington22 folds.
JohnnytotheC folds.
Bdth3 folds.
ancalimon folds.
XAAAX1 folds.
monster5030 calls (1)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8h, Kd, 5d ]
monster5030 checks.
jandje bets (3)
monster5030 calls (3)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Qh ]
monster5030 checks.
jandje bets (6)
monster5030 raises (25.50) to 25.50
monster5030 is all-In.
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r8ed
Old 12-09-2005, 04:46 AM #2 (permalink)  
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What about here though? Just freaking sat down at this table.
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0/0 Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) - Thu Dec 08 22:50:35 EST 2005
Table Table 64882 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: zeglarz ( $28.10)
Seat 2: jandje ( $25)
Seat 3: gandolf007 ( $19.45)
Seat 4: dcovan ( $37.10)
Seat 5: goaler30 ( $24)
Seat 6: Bobuska ( $22.50)
Seat 7: buggenmee ( $19.95)
Seat 8: TDAMoney ( $24.40)
Seat 9: WellHung33 ( $35.58)
Seat 10: Barto3085 ( $7.50)
WellHung33 posts small blind (0.10)
Barto3085 posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to jandje [ Qs, Qc ]
zeglarz calls (0.25)
jandje raises (1.50) to 1.50
gandolf007 folds.
dcovan folds.
goaler30 calls (1.50)
Bobuska folds.
buggenmee folds.
TDAMoney folds.
WellHung33 calls (1.40)
Barto3085 folds.
zeglarz folds.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 4h, 8c, 5s ]
WellHung33 bets (2.50)
jandje raises (7) to 7
goaler30 raises (22.50) to 22.50
goaler30 is all-In.
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Old 12-09-2005, 04:49 AM #3 (permalink)  
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OK, last one. Another no read.
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0/0 Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) - Thu Dec 08 22:53:12 EST 2005
Table Table 64882 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: zeglarz ( $27.60)
Seat 2: jandje ( $24.75)
Seat 3: gandolf007 ( $19.45)
Seat 4: dcovan ( $37.10)
Seat 5: goaler30 ( $35.70)
Seat 6: Bobuska ( $22.50)
Seat 7: buggenmee ( $20.90)
Seat 8: TDAMoney ( $24.40)
Seat 9: WellHung33 ( $31.58)
Seat 10: Barto3085 ( $7)
zeglarz posts small blind (0.10)
jandje posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to jandje [ Ac, 9h ]
gandolf007 folds.
dcovan calls (0.25)
goaler30 folds.
Bobuska folds.
buggenmee calls (0.25)
TDAMoney calls (0.25)
WellHung33 folds.
Barto3085 folds.
zeglarz calls (0.15)
jandje checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 2d, 9d, 4h ]
zeglarz checks.
jandje bets (1)
dcovan calls (1)
buggenmee folds.
TDAMoney folds.
zeglarz folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Ah ]
jandje bets (3)
dcovan calls (3)
** Dealing River ** : [ 5c ]
jandje bets (8)
dcovan raises (20) to 20
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Old 12-09-2005, 06:21 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Wow, without reads those are some seriously sticky situations. As for the last one though, Ad3d is definately a possibility. The other two you may be up against sets, but without reads I'm not sure if you can really say.

Tough, all very tough. Being able to fold/call in these situations is where you either make or lose a lot of money.
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Old 12-09-2005, 12:58 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 Why is there no way you fold on the first hand? I fold that almost EVERYTIME. The person isn't just check calling the flop with a definate draw, he could have KQ. He could even have some monster like trips or two pair, trying to get you to be into him more. Then he assures me he is beating you when he check raises you all in on the turn. I fold there, especially with no read. If you find out later this guy does this with AK or maybe just nothing, then you can get him another time.

2nd hand is very tough, but i think i'd call. He could have a set, but thats a low possibility. You are beating 99-JJ, and KK-AA would probably reraise. He could be an idiot with A8.

If he has 67, then he is a do*che.
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Old 12-09-2005, 10:19 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Wow these are some tough spots. First hand (AA) I fold it without a read. Sure smells like a set or KQ.

2nd hand (QQ) I think is a fairly routine fold, but seems difficult since the board is so nonthreatening. I mean goaler30 comes over the top of 2 raises, so he has to know you have a big pair and expects/wants to get called. Also, you don't have a read on WellHung, so if you do call, you still have WellHung to act after you. If he likes to weak lead his sets you are toast.

3rd hand (A9) is tricky. I would go for a check/call on the river. The pot is still relatively small, so you can afford to call a decent sized bet on the end. Plus you can pick off a busted flush draw. If you don't like check/calling, then put out a blocking bet, something like $4. $8 is a bit much, and when he comes over the top of that I think it's an easy fold. If he plays a busted draw like this you will get his money soon enough.
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Old 12-09-2005, 10:41 PM #7 (permalink)  
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On the first hand i have seen people wait till the turn to semi bluff a flush draw. Maybe in this case he has A Q diamond and hit the queen also so just pushes it. K Q looks like a good posibility also
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Old 12-11-2005, 05:48 AM #8 (permalink)  
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AA beat KT. Yes KT.
QQ folded. With that board he has to have a set.
A9 lost to straight (A3). I should have folded but I figured busted flush.
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