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Old 07-06-2005, 05:15 AM     Post subject: NL50 preflop w AKo vs short stack AI, your play? #1 (permalink)  
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Seat 1: miccix ($64.20 in chips)
Seat 2: doc w1 ($44.90 in chips)
Seat 3: HERO [AC,KD] ($49.25 in chips)
Seat 4: kirk43 ($47.25 in chips)
Seat 5: qdpsteve ($9.60 in chips)
Seat 6: twilson1 ($72 in chips)
Seat 7: bigdawg07 ($34.25 in chips)
Seat 8: 88ROOSTER88 ($57.25 in chips)
Seat 9: avsin04 ($116.90 in chips)
Seat 10: poker426 ($16.10 in chips)

ANTES/BLINDS
doc w1 posts blind ($0.25), HERO posts blind ($0.50).

PRE-FLOP
kirk43 folds, qdpsteve bets $9.60 and is all-in, twilson1 folds, bigdawg07 calls $9.60, 88ROOSTER88 folds, avsin04 calls $9.60, poker426 folds, miccix folds, doc w1 folds, HERO ???

Few reads (gf was talking to me over ICQ at the time... not good for poker, lemme tell you)... avsin seemed a little tight, table seemed very slightly loose on the average.

Short stack moves AI UTG+1? Gotta think I've got him beat most of the time, at worst a coin flip.

My possible lines and my thinking are as follows:

1) Fold. There's already two people who called, don't want to risk a re-raise from one of them, especially the deep stack (avsin)

2) Call. Weak IMO... if an ace or king falls, I'll be pretty sure of my hand, but would fold to a decent raise otherwise. Don't like the idea of going into a $40 main pot with 2 other people...

3) Re-raise to $20. Do I fold to a second AI here fom bigdawg? What if it pushes me all in? If it goes AI (bigdawg), raise to put me AI (avsin), I'm at an even tougher decision.

4) Re-raise AI. Powerful move, would put the bet at $50 into an $80 pot, but what if someone does have KK/AA/AKs?
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Old 07-06-2005, 05:27 AM #2 (permalink)  
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I'm just laying this down. No need to risk 20bb here...
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Old 07-06-2005, 05:48 AM #3 (permalink)  
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50 cents invested. Fold.
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Old 07-06-2005, 07:48 AM #4 (permalink)  
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 at first i wasn't sure, i was thinking call, but its just too much. you're risking a lot of money for a slim chance where you might be dominated and making your pair on the flop might not give you a winner anyway.
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Old 07-06-2005, 02:01 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 Fold. Chances are you're dominated. Or you run into 3 guys with similar hands and one guy with a crap hand and the crap hand wins.
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Old 07-06-2005, 02:39 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Easy fold.

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Old 07-06-2005, 04:48 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Taking the result away shows me why I should have folded. I was sitting on a dry run of cards for a while before this, so didn't want to ditch the hand.

Anyway, I ended up folding and it went check flop, check turn, bet all-in at the river from bigdawg which caused avsin to fold. bigdawg showed down ATo, qdpsteve showed down the bachelor hand (JKo). In retrospect I think it was a good fold, just got rattled by the results as I would have probably would have won a buy-in based on the cards they had.

I'm wondering now in what conditions (if any) this situation is profitable if you raise/push. I can see on a crazy loose/passive table, or against loose/passive callers where you can put people on crap most of the time... any thoughts?
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