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tgo007
Old 07-04-2007, 08:52 AM     Post subject: NL100 KK river fold. weak? #1 (permalink)  

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MP3 ($55.60)
CO ($86.15)
Button ($64.90)
Hero ($98.70)
BB ($144.50)
UTG ($82.55)
UTG+1 ($157)
MP1 ($100)
MP2 ($63)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K, K.
5 folds, CO calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5.5, 1 fold, CO calls $4.

Flop: ($11.50) 4, 5, 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $7, CO calls $7.

Turn: ($25.50) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $16, Hero calls $16.

River: ($57.50) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $21, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $78.50

He played this pretty strong. I felt like I was beat. Was this a weak fold?
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Old 07-04-2007, 11:23 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Well, you played it weakly by checking turn and river. Lead turn for sure, if your scared you can check/call river but never fold that river.
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Old 07-04-2007, 02:58 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Old 07-04-2007, 03:43 PM #4 (permalink)  
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My 2 cents:

Villain didn't play it strong. Villain would have played it strong, if he potted turn and shoved river, putting you in really tough spot.

As played, you have easy call on river, because you underrepped your hand, cost of showdown is fairly cheap and villain could be valuebetting lesser overpair or bluff with missed draw.

Bet/fold turn is better line, because sets and 2pairs can't slowplay anymore on this board and will probably push, and weaker hands may still look you up hoping you are on AK or something.
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Old 07-04-2007, 06:30 PM #5 (permalink)  
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IMO, a weak fold. You under-represented your hand by checking the turn and river so it looked like missed AK to villain. So, he probably has a PP and thinks he is goot. His 1/3 pot bet on the river is so weak I would re-raised allin. If he has a set, then so be it. You should always bet the turn here unless you are trying to induce a bluff against over-agressive villain.
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Old 07-04-2007, 06:55 PM #6 (permalink)  
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How often do you think you're behind on the river really?

You realise if you are ahead even 20% of the time its a river call...


I think you're probably closer to like... 70/30 in your favor.
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Old 07-04-2007, 10:57 PM #7 (permalink)  

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Thanks everyone, I have just been overplaying overpairs losing to sets that I have been trying to check the turn for pot control and hope to see a cheap showdown.

I try to follow "big pots for big hands, small pots for small hands."

I realized this was played very weak but my reasoning was that all I have is one pair and I can find a better spot.

Again, Thanks for the help.
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Old 07-09-2007, 08:32 AM #8 (permalink)  
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Turn play is the biggest leak here IMO
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Old 07-09-2007, 09:25 AM #9 (permalink)  
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i think that bet fold turn here works best.

as played you have to call that river, but that is just another reason why bet folding the turn would be a lot better.
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