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guitarhero14
Old 03-28-2005, 01:36 AM     Post subject: next hand for questioning. #1 (permalink)  
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Please crit. my play...

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BB ($2.35)
UTG ($5.33)
MP1 ($1.60)
MP2 ($1.28)
CO ($0.71)
Button ($6.27)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6, 6.
1 fold, MP1 calls $0.02, MP2 calls $0.02, 1 fold, Button calls $0.02, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.10) T, K, 6 (5 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP1 bets $0.1, MP2 calls $0.10, Button calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10, BB folds.

Turn: ($0.50) J (4 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $0.5, MP2 folds, Button folds, Hero raises to $5.06, MP1 calls $0.98 (All-In).

River: ($7.04) 3 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $7.04
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Old 03-28-2005, 01:47 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Raise the flop. Letting 3 others see a turn card is suicide.

Suicide!

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Old 03-28-2005, 01:53 AM #3 (permalink)  
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ive got a crap load to learn about NL
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Old 03-28-2005, 01:54 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Old 03-28-2005, 02:05 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Why would you raise the flop? Let someone catch two pair or something. Doubtful anyone's gonna catch you now. No need to scare the bajeezus out of the opposition when you're clearly ahead.
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Old 03-28-2005, 02:05 AM #6 (permalink)  
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How much would you raise the flop? I always seem to drive everyone off and end up not getting paid for my set.
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Old 03-28-2005, 02:22 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Why would you raise the flop? Let someone catch two pair or something. Doubtful anyone's gonna catch you now. No need to scare the bajeezus out of the opposition when you're clearly ahead.
Broadway straight draw + an agressor who seems to be happy with his hand.

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Old 03-28-2005, 02:23 AM #8 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by BeatMeBad
How much would you raise the flop? I always seem to drive everyone off and end up not getting paid for my set.
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Old 03-28-2005, 02:27 AM #9 (permalink)  
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I completely agree with rilla. I've fucked around in multiway pots with great hands enough to know it's a terrible idea. PUSH! With a Jack and a King on the flop you will most likely get a caller.
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Old 03-28-2005, 05:45 AM #10 (permalink)  
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My hand of the day.

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BB ($1.23)
UTG ($6.04)
UTG+1 ($2.15)
MP1 ($8.38)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K, K.
UTG calls $0.02, UTG+1 calls $0.02, MP1 calls $0.02, MP2 raises to $0.64, 1 fold, Hero raises to $4.52, 1 fold, SB calls $0.83 (All-In), 1 fold, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $1.67 (All-In).

Flop: ($7.75) A, Q, 4 (3 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($7.75) A (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($7.75) 4 (3 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $7.75

Results in white below:
SB has Th Tc (two pair, aces and tens).
MP2 has Jh Jd (two pair, aces and jacks).
Hero has Kd Ks (two pair, aces and kings).
Outcome: Hero wins $7.75.
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Old 03-28-2005, 07:27 AM #11 (permalink)  
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How much would you raise the flop? I always seem to drive everyone off and end up not getting paid for my set.
same here, I have a real hard time getting people to call, but I guess on 1c-2c tables u don't have that problem

about the second HH: perfectly played, im my opinion
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Old 03-28-2005, 01:26 PM #12 (permalink)  
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i was really fearing an ace right there.
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Old 03-28-2005, 03:09 PM #13 (permalink)  
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Yeah, I can see why. That's the worst kind of flop to see when you've got Kings (well...actually it's better than seeing one with one ace, since it means you're that much less likely to run into it). Glad it worked out.

On the set hand, I agree with 'rilla. The thing is, there is a straight draw on the board. In NL, as soon as you have the best hand, you need to start dropping the hammer on boards with draws to make it a mistake for the player you're against to call. Straight draw = 8 outs = 31.5% to come in by river and about 18% to come in on the turn. So you want to raise it at least enough that with 18% odds + implied odds, a call is bad. 2/3 the pot is generally good here, but at micro levels, might go ahead and make it pot-sized.

Another difference from limit is the inability to check/call to a showdown cheaply. If someone is betting like they made a hand that's better than yours, they probably did (unless you've seen similar behavior from them on a bluff before).
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