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Old 02-26-2008, 03:23 AM     Post subject: Newbie Micro-Stakes Quiz #1 (permalink)  
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I thought this was a perfect hand to test you new players on reading your opponets and putting them on ranges. Please review the hand and answer what you believe villian holds and what you next move should be.

Veterens, please refrain from guessing awhile. Then I will open it up to all and you can dazzle the newer players with your poker savy.

Hand #1422012034000137: Rome 12034
Seat 1: Smile4Me (10.81 in chips)
Seat 2: Logical9 (1.35 in chips)
Seat 3: Hero (3.90 in chips)
Seat 4: Villian (4.49 in chips)
Seat 5: nickjm83 (10.51 in chips)
Seat 6: DogWarrior (6.02 in chips)
Seat 7: sachy (4.62 in chips)
Seat 8: drmdogg (0.34 in chips)
Seat 9: wpddm (3.49 in chips)
Seat 10: elChipLead3r (3.92 in chips)
elChipLead3r: posts small blind $0.02
Smile4Me: posts big blind $0.04
Dealt to Hero[ 6d 6h ]
Logical9: folds
Hero: calls
Villian: calls
nickjm83: folds
DogWarrior: folds
sachy: folds
drmdogg: folds
wpddm: calls
elChipLead3r: folds
Smile4Me: checks
@@@ F_L_O_P @@@ [ Jh 9d 6s ]
Smile4Me: checks
Hero: checks
Villian: bets $0.18
wpddm: folds
Smile4Me: folds
Hero: raises to $0.36
Villian: calls
*** TURN *** [ As ]
Hero: bets $0.90
Villian: is all in 4.0900
Hero???
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Old 02-26-2008, 03:38 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 how is anyone supposed to put a solid range on a mystery player?
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Old 02-26-2008, 03:39 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 oh yeah, and snap call.
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Old 02-26-2008, 03:55 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Old 02-26-2008, 03:57 AM #5 (permalink)  
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 J9, 99, 96, 87, QT, JJ in order of likelihood imo
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Old 02-26-2008, 04:14 AM #6 (permalink)  
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My first inclination is A9... but then again at micro it may have been raised preflop? If it was J9 I think he would have re-raised the Hero's raise on the flop. My first guess is A9. Other than that I agree with spoon.
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Old 02-26-2008, 04:58 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Well, we didn't give the newbies much of a chance. Spoon you don't qualify as a newbie. By the way, its your move spoon last I checked. I would hate to win on a time out but I'll take it.

I'll give answer in morning. And yes I know hard to put a range on a mystery player but at micro-stakes they are ALL a mystery.

This is simply a test of the Emergency Micro Stakes System, if this had been an actual money table and not couch change I would have given more info, again this is only a test.
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Old 02-26-2008, 05:43 AM #8 (permalink)  
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Before seeing any replies I thought A9. He's prob raising pre with AJ. Maybe two pair. I get it in and call my dad to tell him I just became a millionaire before he turns over his cards.
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Old 02-26-2008, 12:07 PM #9 (permalink)  
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anyone else want a shot??
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Old 02-26-2008, 02:22 PM #10 (permalink)  
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I would put him on Ax here really. Maybe even AK, I've seen people limp AK in micro stakes. Snap call of course. Also it could be QsKs.
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Old 02-26-2008, 02:56 PM #11 (permalink)  
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A9. The 9 had him interested, and the A on turn really woke him up. To me this is the strongest possibility by far.
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Old 02-26-2008, 07:30 PM #12 (permalink)  
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no offense, but at these stakes i am not dropping a set. so, villains range doesnt matter here.

instacall.
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Old 02-26-2008, 07:40 PM #13 (permalink)  
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Ok, I quick scrolled past everyone, want to try my hand at this... so this is a ring game... let me see... that changes things slightly.

So here is my thought pattern, all the way through, tell me how bad I am...

Hero is UTG, BB is approximately 1/10 of stack.
Hero is dealt low pair 6s so calls, hoping to set.
Villian calls, may be sitting on low pair or A-T+ if he is skilled.
wpddm calls, might be holding pair, bb checks, no read there.

BB checks the flop, probably didn't hit
Hero checks (I think I bet here, with trips), but anyway, shows some weakness, like didn't set.
Villian bets 4.5x BB which indicates a high pair, might have A-J in his hand, might have hit trips.
On the raise, villian calls... thinks he has high pair at least... then the river comes and he all ins, so I put the villian on...

A-J in his hand... at worse case he has A-9.

Shove.

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Old 02-26-2008, 08:06 PM #14 (permalink)  
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I hope you will enlighten us at some point Deuce, haha
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Old 02-26-2008, 08:40 PM #15 (permalink)  
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I had to see if my boy Monty would chime in. Thank you Monty for the thinking process.

And the answer is..............

Villian had A-Jo.

Yes, insta shove was the right ( and actual ) call.

You can all get some sleep tonight now that this is finally answered.

All the veterns that answered wrong, you are not allowed to play at micro-stakes. You will be pawned for 5 or 6 bucks easy.

Monty, you get the A for the day, but I'm dropping it to a B- because you dare question me on not betting out. You get that ROI out of the red on Sharkscope and you can question. J/K man!!

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Old 02-27-2008, 01:26 AM #16 (permalink)  
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 Without looking at any responses (not sure if it's been answered yet...) I'm guessing AJ.

In the end though, it depends on if I've seen him as over passive or over aggro (which 98% of micro players seem to be one or the other)

He likes the flop enough to bet (though only called the minraise) If I was giving the guy credit for being decent, I may put him on a straight draw on the flop, but I don't expect players here to raise draws (unless they are over aggro). He could also have something like T9 here...BUT...

...he really seems to like that Ace. My first thought is AJ. AK/AQ crossed my mind, but I'd expect horrible players raise that PF, so thats out...maybe A9 or A6 (A6 is obviously unlikely as there is only one 6 left)...or a bluff.

In the end, AJ-A9-bluff in that order.

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Old 02-27-2008, 10:10 PM #17 (permalink)  
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AJ is the obvious one, but does it matter? You're not ever folding a set here.
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Old 02-27-2008, 10:52 PM #18 (permalink)  
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it matters in the fact that we're trying to hone our hand reading skills... thats the only real purpose here i think. sure, we all call here, but for the sake of it, what do we think he's holding
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Old 02-27-2008, 10:57 PM #19 (permalink)  
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J9 reraises our silly min-raise. AJ calls and shoves 2 pair.
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Old 02-28-2008, 08:58 PM #20 (permalink)  
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AJ is my 1st guess because he overbets the pot on the flop which usually is TPTK and then his two pr wakes him up on the turn. J9 should reraise back on the flop but these players are bad down there too so it could be that as well. Could even be Q10 here to and he's trying to rep the scare card.

AJ, J9 or Q10
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