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Pelion

12-07-2005, 06:18 PM Post subject: New table 5NL good fold?

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I think i made the right fold here but its a new table that i just sat down at so i dont have many reads and dont know who the maniacs are and who the loose passives are. I have played a couple of hands against the villain before and he seems loose-aggressive preflop.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP2 ($2.64)
CO ($1.54)
Button ($2.36)
Hero ($4.70)
BB ($4.90)
UTG ($5.16)
UTG+1 ($4.75)
MP1 ($1.55)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J

, 9

. MP2 posts a blind of $0.02.
UTG raises to $0.04, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.04, 1 fold, CO calls $0.04, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.03, BB calls $0.02.

Flop: ($0.22) J

, J

, 5

(5 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets $0.1, MP1 folds, CO calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.36, BB folds, UTG raises to $5.12, CO folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $5.80

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12-07-2005, 06:23 PM

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Fold pre-flop.

At these stakes this looks like an over-pair.

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STIdrivr

12-07-2005, 06:28 PM

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what are you trying to flop, a straight? Just fold pre flop to the raiseif you are only going to continue if you flop the nuts

Pelion

12-07-2005, 06:33 PM

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im looking for the straight draw since there are so many callers before me and stack sizes are large i figure i probably have odds and these tables tend to give odds to chase if you flop the 4-straight

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12-07-2005, 07:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnord

Fold pre-flop.

At these stakes this looks like an over-pair.

Exactly. Especially the overpair part. I put all my money in on this board. If he has a better hand pay it. Many worse ones will pay you.

It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.

Pelion

12-08-2005, 12:06 AM

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I was afraid youd say that.
Results: I fold, he shows anyway and turns over AJ.
I know i made the right play against tight players but i thought it may have been worth a call at these stakes. Im still thinking about whether i should have called even though i KNOW i would have lost if id called on this hand.

gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.

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Rondavu

12-08-2005, 09:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pelion

If you felt he had you beat, than fold. I think we're just saying you should be aware of the hands that will and often do go deep with you on these tables. Maybe this particular player hadn't gone deep without a hand up to that point, and that was your read. Now I see you had no read, so without a read you err on the side of caution. Well done.

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sejje

12-08-2005, 10:44 PM

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I'd call it all off, I think. I don't think most players at those stakes are raising AJ UTG...and they're not letting go of AA or KK there very often.

With a read I could let it go.

Also, you might draw out or split if it's worst case and he has you kicked.

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12-09-2005, 09:18 PM

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Just a note/comment on the low stakes players - usually the minraise at the lower limits is indicative of some pocket pair.
But lately I have seen people minraising AJs/o from early position. I keep this in mind in case they come out betting an ace hard on the flop - doesn't necessarily mean they are being overaggressive with their missed-set pockets.

The other goofy thing is that some goofballs will minraise in EP with AA/KK hoping for a reraise so they can come over the top - an alternative to the limp-reraise.

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12-10-2005, 04:17 AM

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