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Old 04-12-2008, 05:38 AM     Post subject: Need Value Deep 200NL #1 (permalink)  
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MP2 ($144.90)
CO ($243.35)
Button ($423.25)
SB ($71.50)
BB ($200)
UTG ($166.20)
UTG+1 ($198)
Hero ($446.30)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J, J.
2 folds, Hero raises to $8, 2 folds, Button calls $8, 2 folds.

Flop: ($19) J, 2, 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $14, Button calls $14.

Turn: ($47) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $40, Button raises to $105, Hero
 
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Old 04-12-2008, 06:03 AM #2 (permalink)  
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push, or call then take the big risk of checking the river
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Old 04-12-2008, 06:51 AM #3 (permalink)  
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call, fake block/3bet blank rivers, bet big on non-blank rivers.
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Old 04-12-2008, 12:01 PM #4 (permalink)  
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call/ c/r all in on river or as nuts says
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Old 04-12-2008, 12:04 PM #5 (permalink)  
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I would call and bet $120 on the river. I'd really really hate to miss a bet in this big of a pot against a total unknown.
 
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Old 04-12-2008, 03:08 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I called. I didn't really like the river if he has just a naked 7.

River 10c (pot $257 and $300 effective)

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Old 04-12-2008, 03:15 PM #7 (permalink)  
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id check here if i believe my opponent has to bet to win the pot
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That river will frezze QQ+, so you MUST bet.
 
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Old 04-12-2008, 10:45 PM #9 (permalink)  
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That river will frezze QQ+, so you MUST bet.
I agree with fnord on this river. I think villain has QQ+ or a 7 here and would have bet the river if checked to on a non-club board.

Fnord: I doubt villain raises turn with QQ+ here and is likely to do that on flop because of the draw. Villain either has air or the 7 here a lot and on a non club board check/shove will get us a lot more money in the long run than 'settling' for $120.


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Old 04-12-2008, 10:56 PM #10 (permalink)  
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So I'm a pretty sick and twisted man to play AA/KK like this?
 
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Old 04-13-2008, 12:05 AM #11 (permalink)  
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I called. I didn't really like the river if he has just a naked 7.
for this reason, shouldn't we be 3 betting the turn? It makes us look like we have QQ+ and he can stack us.
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Old 04-13-2008, 12:42 AM #12 (permalink)  
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How many unpaired 7x hands to people tend to play in that game? We don't have a fish read and his stack size is a little interesting as he either played some big pots recently or has been at the table for a while.

I'm thinking QQ+/77/22/CrubFrushDraw/A7s/76s/78s Maybe some wild bluffs in there or a weird 7x hand. None of those are a clear fit other than 77/22/bluff, but we can't rule them out given the lack of information on our opponent.
 
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Old 04-13-2008, 04:17 PM #13 (permalink)  
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Old 04-13-2008, 04:24 PM #14 (permalink)  
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fnord hes like infinity more likely to have 7x than qq+. Also 3betting turn is bad vs a solid player because they would not want to felt 76s/87s this deep in this fashion. the call and donk is going to make him love his 7x if the river is a blank though.
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But the river made a flush
 
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