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spino1i
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10-14-2005, 04:46 AM
Post subject: Need help with this hand
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Full House
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What did I do wrong here if anything? No reads on villain
***** Hand History for Game 2852723031 *****
$100 NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, October 14, 00:43:13 EDT 2005
Table Table 55001 (6 max) (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: WheelMaster1 ( $156.48 )
Seat 2: JKWREN ( $95.50 )
Seat 3: GreenKronik ( $95.25 )
Seat 4: Mrs_Trit ( $94 )
Seat 5: chip82 ( $262.96 )
Seat 6: Kingfish__ ( $99 )
Kingfish__ posts small blind [$0.50].
WheelMaster1 posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Kingfish__ [ Qd Ks ]
JKWREN calls [$1].
>You have options at Table 54847 (6 max) (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Table 36690 (6 max) Table!.
GreenKronik calls [$1].
Mrs_Trit folds.
>You have options at Table 54847 (6 max) (No DP) Table!.
chip82 calls [$1].
Kingfish__ raises [$7.50].
WheelMaster1 folds.
chip82: i have more than you,, So shut
JKWREN folds.
chip82: up
GreenKronik folds.
>You have options at Table 54847 (6 max) (No DP) Table!.
chip82 calls [$7].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8s, 6s, Kh ]
>You have options at Table 36614 (6 max) Table!.
GreenKronik: no and no
Kingfish__ bets [$12].
chip82 calls [$12].
** Dealing Turn ** [ As ]
Kingfish__ bets [$25].
>You have options at Table 54847 (6 max) (No DP) Table!.
chip82 calls [$25].
** Dealing River ** [ 7d ]
Kingfish__ checks.
>You have options at Table 36614 (6 max) Table!.
chip82 bets [$66].
Kingfish__ folds.
>You have options at Table 54847 (6 max) (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Table 36690 (6 max) Table!.
chip82 does not show cards.
chip82 wins $156
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Fnord
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What do you know about your opponent? Why don't you have any reads?
Why did you raise pre-flop?
What does $25 get you on the turn that $20 wouldn't? $30?
What's your pot control plan for this hand?
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jmontis
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i hate playing big pots out of position like this
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take your ego out of the equation and judge the situation dispassionately
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Fnord
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by jmontis
i hate playing big pots out of position against unknown and unpredictable opponents with lots of money behind
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Corrected your post.
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jmontis
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ya exactly, i don't always put the most effort into my posts. Perhaps that's why I'm mistaken on a few things
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take your ego out of the equation and judge the situation dispassionately
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arkana
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Check fold the turn unless the opponent is a donkey. Seriously you don't beat any hand on the turn that calls the preflop raise and that flop bet. KQ is not a hand that you want to play big pots with.
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silverfist
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I think your first mistake was raising with KQo from early position. You're just not going to scare off four limpers with that bet, and you don't have good enough cards to face anyone who will raise you.
Your second mistake was that bet on the turn. The ace killed you. You might have been ahead before the ace, but you're definitely not afterwards. What did he call your seven dollar raise and then call your $12 raise with? AK, AQ, AJs or 88 are the only real possibilities. If he had a mid-pair and missed the set, he would have tossed it on the flop bet, and if he had a high pair he would have reraised you before the flop. The only hands you can beat are KJ or QJ and there's no way he called $7 before the flop with those.
I understand you were drawing to the nut spade flush, but drawing out of position sucks. I would probably check-fold this on the turn, unless his (nearly certain) raise gave me the right odds for my flush.
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