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gametight
Old 09-01-2007, 07:36 AM     Post subject: More tough 100 NL FR hands... #1 (permalink)  
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All of these hands are against non-regs, and I only have about 25 hands of history with all these guys.

Hand 1

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($148.35)
BB ($97.80)
UTG ($18.50)
UTG+1 ($139.40)
MP1 ($158.30)
MP2 ($16)
CO ($126.60)
Button ($93.60)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T, J.
2 folds, MP1 raises to $3, 2 folds, Button calls $3, Hero calls $2.50, 1 fold.

Flop: ($10) 2, T, 8 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $5, Button raises to $15, Hero calls $15, MP1 calls $10.

Turn: ($55) Q (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $20, Button calls $20, Hero raises to $130.35, MP1 raises to $140.3, Button folds.

River: ($345.65) 4 (2 players)

Final Pot: $335.70

Hand 2

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Hero ($103.75)
Button ($101.70)
SB ($79.05)
BB ($87.70)
UTG ($93.55)
UTG+1 ($125.55)
MP1 ($19)
MP2 ($56)

Preflop: Hero is CO with , .
4 folds, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, SB calls $3.50, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($12) , , (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $7, SB raises to $14, BB folds, Hero calls $7.

Turn: ($40) (2 players)
SB bets $8, Hero raises to $85.75, SB calls $53.05 (All-In).

River: ($162.10) (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $162.10

Hand 3

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

MP3 ($109.40)
CO ($78.45)
Button ($126.15)
SB ($47.80)
BB ($104.55)
UTG ($43.20)
UTG+1 ($71)
Hero ($97.60)
MP2 ($100.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with , .
2 folds, Hero raises to $3, 4 folds, SB calls $2.50, BB calls $2.

Flop: ($9) , , (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $5, Hero raises to $12, SB calls $12, BB folds.

Turn: ($38) (2 players)
SB bets $32.8 (All-In), Hero calls $32.80.

River: ($0) (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $103.60
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Old 09-01-2007, 03:22 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 Hand 1 Fold preflop if you don't know how to play draws OOP. As played, either raise or fold flop, as your hand becomes transparent by a call. I put button on a set and MP on an overpair. At least you got it allin with most likely the best hand. If he had AJc or AKc sucks but happens.

Hand 2 Preflop and flop is fine. Turn is huge spew IMO. You have odds to draw to the flush and if you don't improve this is an easy fold on the river. He doesn't have so little that it warrants a push.

Hand 3 Fold PF if you are going to play it like AK. Your flop raise sucks and you should shut down the turn. You are way behind on this turn and are getting only 2.1:1 which is not even close to what you need to make the flush. The three 10's may not even be outs.
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Old 09-01-2007, 05:26 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Hand 1 Fold preflop if you don't know how to play draws OOP. As played, either raise or fold flop, as your hand becomes transparent by a call. I put button on a set and MP on an overpair. At least you got it allin with most likely the best hand. If he had AJc or AKc sucks but happens.

Hand 2 Preflop and flop is fine. Turn is huge spew IMO. You have odds to draw to the flush and if you don't improve this is an easy fold on the river. He doesn't have so little that it warrants a push.

Hand 3 Fold PF if you are going to play it like AK. Your flop raise sucks and you should shut down the turn. You are way behind on this turn and are getting only 2.1:1 which is not even close to what you need to make the flush. The three 10's may not even be outs.
I'm very unsure what to say to this, all b/c I disagree with a lot of it. I don't play FR much but hmmmmmmmmmm.
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Old 09-01-2007, 10:31 PM #4 (permalink)  
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So what DO you think about each hand spenda??
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Old 09-02-2007, 01:22 AM #5 (permalink)  
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hand 1 -- def call preflop, fantastic drawing hand for stacks. OOP yes but hand is easy to play often based on what flops. You got a great flop, I would re-raise flop and call a push. As played, fine, if u lost to a higher flush oh well. I don't like the size of your raise though on turn as you push out a lot of hands that are beat but would call less.

hand 2 - terrible, you overbet twice the pot and again push out many weaker hands that would call smaller bets, and you are almost always only called by a hand you are beat by. could not have played the hand worse

hand 3 is a truly marginal spot. I don't see a lot of point in raising the flop as again, usually you scare weaker hands like a 9. prolly behind on turn but a tough fold.
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Old 09-02-2007, 04:25 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Hand 1 Fold preflop if you don't know how to play draws OOP. As played, either raise or fold flop, as your hand becomes transparent by a call. I put button on a set and MP on an overpair. At least you got it allin with most likely the best hand. If he had AJc or AKc sucks but happens.

Hand 2 Preflop and flop is fine. Turn is huge spew IMO. You have odds to draw to the flush and if you don't improve this is an easy fold on the river. He doesn't have so little that it warrants a push.

Hand 3 Fold PF if you are going to play it like AK. Your flop raise sucks and you should shut down the turn. You are way behind on this turn and are getting only 2.1:1 which is not even close to what you need to make the flush. The three 10's may not even be outs.
I'm very unsure what to say to this, all b/c I disagree with a lot of it. I don't play FR much but hmmmmmmmmmm.
lol i agree with all of it
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Old 09-02-2007, 05:53 AM #7 (permalink)  
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 Have I missed past threads with OP where he was asked to be berated about his play?

Hand 1 is fine PF, you'll at least have relative position on the PFR'er. You certainly do not have to check this flop. Lead for pot, hope to get raised and shove. You have so much equity in this spot it's just incorrect to play it so passively. I'm not a huge fan of the turn c/r as your hand is dead face-up. I lead the turn, but I certainly would have led the flop.

People really get into the habbit of checking into the PF aggressor. There's no rule that says you have to do this. Lead this flop, lead this same board when you flop a set. If you do c/r it should be with the intention to be able to PSB shove any turn card.

Hand 2 is something I do at 6max, unsure of the hand ranges at FR and how much FE you would need out of better hands for this to be profitable.

Hand 3 the flop raise is poor, it's a spot where raising usually folds out all worse hands. Unless we're putting him on 78 a lot I don't like your play in this hand. I'd call the flop and probably not call much else.
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 In hand 1 on the flop I like a lead for pot or a huge checkraise to try and get it allin ASAP. A checkraise accomplishes this better.
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Old 09-02-2007, 11:16 AM #9 (permalink)  
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Hand 2
After your raise i put the blinds range at any pair or a big ace. The pairs will play on if they get set, the aces will be looking for TPTK.
After the flop bet the SB raises, he will have hit his hand. either a set or TPTK, your call is ok with the implied odds but it is close. The ace makes things worse, all of his likely starting hands are now ahead you may have made a good second best. I would call, look to see the river cheaply and then fold to a decent bet, call a small one. I dont think i would be going all in.
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Old 09-04-2007, 10:45 PM #10 (permalink)  
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 1. Preflop is fine.
Positionally its perhaps iffy, but if you have a multiway pot ongoing then id want to play here too.
Cant decide if id push the flop or raise turn to $60-80ish call a push on that street or just raise to $60 and push river.

2. Push. Overs plus fd+gutshot = all you can eat. (push a set here too)

3. i like everything about this as hes a shorty,
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