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Old 02-06-2009, 05:50 AM     Post subject: More QQ trouble #1 (permalink)  
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Villain is 19/17 over 70 hands.. no reads.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q, Q
1 fold, Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, MP3 calls $2, 2 folds, SB raises to $9, 1 fold, Hero calls $7, 1 fold

Flop: ($20.50) 10, 7, 5 (2 players)
SB bets $10, Hero?
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Old 02-06-2009, 06:00 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Villain is 11/5 over 150 hands, hasn't 3-bet once.

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CO ($51.25)
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SB ($62.05)
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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q, Q
3 folds, Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, Button raises to $6, 2 folds, Hero raises to $16, Button raises to $50 (All-In), 1 fold

Total pot: $32.75 | Rake: $0
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Old 02-06-2009, 06:02 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 I lean towards a fold.
You can't raise without a better read because there's no value in it. Calling sets up a shove on the turn so you might as well stack off on the flop if that's the line you'd want to take.

This hand is very similar to the other QQ hand you posted, except for the position. This makes me think villains holdings are stronger than if he had button on you.


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Old 02-06-2009, 06:04 AM #4 (permalink)  
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 If villain hasn't 3bet you once in 150 hands, why are we 4 betting QQ? Call and stack off with a third.


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Old 02-06-2009, 06:25 AM #5 (permalink)  
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 it's ok to fold sometimes...
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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Old 02-06-2009, 06:29 AM #6 (permalink)  
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it's ok to fold sometimes...
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Old 02-06-2009, 03:51 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Villain is 11/5 over 150 hands, hasn't 3-bet once.
So you decided to 4-bet bluff him based on this read?
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Old 02-06-2009, 05:17 PM #8 (permalink)  
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 2nd post is a trainwreck. Call preflop and if you 4bet why are you folding
 
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Old 02-06-2009, 05:45 PM #9 (permalink)  
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 id call pre in hand 2 - from playing 50nl recently most 3x original raises are AK and most players raise larger with kk/AA aka hand 1 (depsite it being a squeeze.
Id maybe not even call pre in hand 1 - need more stats id def call in hand 2 (buts that unless you know more)
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Old 02-06-2009, 06:44 PM #10 (permalink)  
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1st hand is a bit of a rubbish spot, either fold preflop (mega exploitable but they dont know that and its hard to play this profitably postflop) or call pre and call flop because calling pre and then folding on this flop is nonsensical.

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Old 02-07-2009, 12:51 AM #11 (permalink)  
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I play queens by every rule in the book and I still only win 20% of the time with them :/
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Old 02-07-2009, 12:59 AM #12 (permalink)  
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I play queens by every rule in the book and I still only win 20% of the time with them :/
No offense, but keep your post whoring in the tilt forum imo.
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I play queens by every rule in the book and I still only win 20% of the time with them :/
No offense, but keep your post whoring in the tilt forum imo.
No offense, but I don't give a shit what you think... that is why i'm telling you
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