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Old 09-18-2006, 03:15 AM     Post subject: Monster or missed flush/straight draw? #1 (permalink)  
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Seat 2: leatherass4 ($140.30 in chips)
Seat 7: RIPJohnGotti [10C,6H] ($148.80 in chips)
Seat 9: itsalwaysano ($79 in chips)
Seat 10: valkr ($98.90 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
RIPJohnGotti posts blind ($0.50), itsalwaysano posts blind ($1).

PRE-FLOP
valkr calls $1, leatherass4 folds, RIPJohnGotti calls $0.50, itsalwaysano checks.

FLOP [board cards 8C,10H,JH ]
RIPJohnGotti checks, itsalwaysano checks, valkr bets $2, RIPJohnGotti bets $7, itsalwaysano calls $7, valkr folds.

TURN [board cards 8C,10H,JH,JD ]
RIPJohnGotti bets $12, itsalwaysano calls $12.

RIVER [board cards 8C,10H,JH,JD,4S ]
RIPJohnGotti checks, itsalwaysano bets $24, RIPJohnGotti folds.

SHOWDOWN
itsalwaysano wins $66.

Should I lead the river?
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Old 09-18-2006, 03:20 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Table Guantanamo, 17 Sep 2006 10:18 PM
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Seat 2: leatherass4 ($152.90 in chips)
Seat 7: RIPJohnGotti [QH,AD] ($135.40 in chips)
Seat 8: Torsken ($94.50 in chips)
Seat 9: itsalwaysano ($97.40 in chips)
Seat 10: valkr ($82.90 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
itsalwaysano posts blind ($0.50), valkr posts blind ($1).

PRE-FLOP
leatherass4 folds, RIPJohnGotti bets $3.50, Torsken calls $3.50, itsalwaysano folds, valkr folds.

FLOP [board cards 10D,4D,AS ]
RIPJohnGotti checks, Torsken bets $5, RIPJohnGotti bets $10, Torsken calls $5.

TURN [board cards 10D,4D,AS,7S ]
RIPJohnGotti bets $15, Torsken calls $15.

RIVER [board cards 10D,4D,AS,7S,KS ]
RIPJohnGotti Should I bet River or check behind?

If AK was beating me I was gone already, do you value bet here or check to keep the pot small in fear of guy having 2 pair?
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Old 09-18-2006, 03:30 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Texas Hold'em $1-$1 NL (real money), hand #1,016,608,937
Table Guantanamo, 17 Sep 2006 10:28 PM
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Seat 2: leatherass4 ($153.60 in chips)
Seat 6: Biggsta1015 ($37.50 in chips)
Seat 7: RIPJohnGotti [9H,7H] ($178.10 in chips)
Seat 9: itsalwaysano ($102.80 in chips)
Seat 10: valkr ($69.50 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
valkr posts blind ($0.50), leatherass4 posts blind ($1).

PRE-FLOP
Biggsta1015 folds, RIPJohnGotti bets $3.50, itsalwaysano calls $3.50, valkr folds, leatherass4 folds.

FLOP [board cards 3D,8C,3C ]
RIPJohnGotti checks, itsalwaysano checks.

TURN [board cards 3D,8C,3C,4D ]
RIPJohnGotti bets $5, itsalwaysano calls $5.

RIVER [board cards 3D,8C,3C,4D,10C ]
RIPJohnGotti checks, itsalwaysano checks.

SHOWDOWN
RIPJohnGotti shows [ 9H,7H ]
itsalwaysano shows [ KD,AC ]
itsalwaysano wins $17.50.


Last hand previous hand i had shown JJ preflop, this hand comes up I check flop OOP. Then bet turn fearing he was weak, didnt have the balls to fire a bluff on river in case of PP.


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Old 09-18-2006, 03:33 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Seat 2: leatherass4 ($151.10 in chips)
Seat 6: Biggsta1015 ($42.75 in chips)
Seat 7: RIPJohnGotti [6H,9H] ($166.85 in chips)
Seat 9: itsalwaysano ($120.70 in chips)
Seat 10: valkr ($56.50 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
leatherass4 posts blind ($0.50), Biggsta1015 posts blind ($1).

PRE-FLOP
RIPJohnGotti bets $3, itsalwaysano folds, valkr calls $3, leatherass4 folds, Biggsta1015 folds.

FLOP [board cards KH,7C,5H ]
RIPJohnGotti checks, valkr checks.

TURN [board cards KH,7C,5H,KC ]
RIPJohnGotti checks, valkr bets $2, RIPJohnGotti calls $2.

RIVER [board cards KH,7C,5H,KC,AD ]
RIPJohnGotti checks, valkr checks.

SHOWDOWN
RIPJohnGotti shows [ 6H,9H ]
valkr shows [ 4S,4C ]
valkr wins $11.10.
Texas Hold'em $1-$1 NL (real money), hand #1,016,619,225
Table Guantanamo, 17 Sep 2006 10:31 PM
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Seat 2: leatherass4 ($152.10 in chips)
Seat 6: Biggsta1015 ($42.50 in chips)
Seat 7: RIPJohnGotti [QC,KD] ($166.60 in chips)
Seat 9: itsalwaysano ($120.70 in chips)
Seat 10: valkr ($57 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
valkr posts blind ($0.50), leatherass4 posts blind ($1).

PRE-FLOP
Biggsta1015 bets $3, RIPJohnGotti calls $3, itsalwaysano folds, valkr folds, leatherass4 folds.

FLOP [board cards 3S,4S,3H ]
Biggsta1015 checks, RIPJohnGotti bets $5, Biggsta1015 calls $5.

TURN [board cards 3S,4S,3H,4C ]
Biggsta1015 checks, RIPJohnGotti checks.

RIVER [board cards 3S,4S,3H,4C,4D ]
Biggsta1015 checks, RIPJohnGotti checks.

SHOWDOWN
Biggsta1015 shows [ AD,KH ]
RIPJohnGotti shows [ QC,KD ]
Biggsta1015 wins $8.25, RIPJohnGotti wins $8.25.


I think one of my probelms is I dont like firing continuation bets OOP These hands some of my NL ring when im not catching flops but catching okay cards in position or to make a move, I have no idea what to do as they love to call the flop bets, should I try floats?

Maybe im building pots too much with my bets with nothing, as they believe im a bluffer and I should refrain myself from making these bets. But when I see what they had and knew that they were weak it sucks. Other times it seems as if its the opposite where I should refrain from making these bets because they do have something.
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Old 09-18-2006, 03:38 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Texas Hold'em $1-$1 NL (real money), hand #1,016,635,939
Table Guantanamo, 17 Sep 2006 10:37 PM
View Previous hand for this table.
Seat 2: leatherass4 ($158.80 in chips)
Seat 6: Biggsta1015 ($44.85 in chips)
Seat 7: RIPJohnGotti [8D,8H] ($158.75 in chips)
Seat 9: itsalwaysano ($119.20 in chips)
Seat 10: valkr ($53.50 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
RIPJohnGotti posts blind ($0.50), itsalwaysano posts blind ($1).

PRE-FLOP
valkr calls $1, leatherass4 folds, Biggsta1015 folds, RIPJohnGotti calls $0.50, itsalwaysano checks.

FLOP [board cards 4C,7C,10S ]
RIPJohnGotti checks, itsalwaysano checks, valkr bets $2.50, RIPJohnGotti calls $2.50, itsalwaysano folds.

TURN [board cards 4C,7C,10S,4H ]
RIPJohnGotti bets $5, valkr calls $5.

RIVER [board cards 4C,7C,10S,4H,10H ]
RIPJohnGotti checks, valkr checks.

SHOWDOWN
RIPJohnGotti shows [ 8D,8H ]
valkr mucks cards [ 7S,AC ]
RIPJohnGotti wins $17.


This guy is a solid guy, But I miss the opp on river to even get a bluff or to value bet.

What The Fuckkk am I missing. I just bought Online Ace and that is helping my game but there is a situation where i Must reverse


His OOP bets to my OOP bets and in position bets when in fact he has the hand or doesnt. Something im so close to but yet cant figure out.
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Old 09-18-2006, 04:11 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Seat 1: fawfawsas ($35.80 in chips)
Seat 4: Habber_09 ($55.50 in chips)
Seat 6: da.k ($126.65 in chips)
Seat 7: RIPJohnGotti [QC,KD] ($171.05 in chips)
Seat 10: RUTBUT ($26.60 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
RUTBUT posts blind ($0.50), fawfawsas posts blind ($1).

PRE-FLOP
Habber_09 folds, da.k calls $1, RIPJohnGotti calls $1, RUTBUT calls $0.50, fawfawsas checks.

FLOP [board cards 3H,7H,QS ]
RUTBUT checks, fawfawsas checks, da.k checks, RIPJohnGotti bets $3, RUTBUT folds, fawfawsas folds, da.k calls $3.

TURN [board cards 3H,7H,QS,KC ]
da.k checks, RIPJohnGotti bets $3.50, da.k bets $7, RIPJohnGotti bets $7, da.k bets $18, RIPJohnGotti calls $14.50.

RIVER [board cards 3H,7H,QS,KC,5C ]
da.k bets $40, RIPJohnGotti calls $40.

SHOWDOWN
da.k shows [ 3C,3D ]
RIPJohnGotti mucks cards [ QC,KD ]
da.k wins $138.
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Old 09-18-2006, 05:13 AM #7 (permalink)  
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On the first hand firing the river is bad. Calling isn't awful because he could just as easily have a draw or a weak Jack.

The second hand IMO is real bad. You shouldn't create huge pots with weak one pair hands OOP by c/r'ing. This use to be a huge leak of mine and is just spewage lots of the time. I check the river to induce bluffs from busted diamonds.

Third hand I just bet the flop and if called am done with the hand unless I pick up a straight draw or a pair. If I pick up a pair I likely check anyways.

Fourth hand I fold preflop. I'm a nit. Bluffing the flop can't be bad since sometimes you will hit the flop and get called down because you showed a bluff but there is no need to do it often at all unless you think he's raising trash alot.

5th hand lead the flop and you win. If he calls this is a spot I like to fire a second barrell.

6th hand i bet the flop, but after checking the flop betting the turn is good. I'm pretty sure the river should be an easy bet/fold situation.

7th hand raise pf, obv. after going 4 bets on the turn you have to think you're behind unless he just went off the deep end with Khxh. That check min/raise then throwing in a 4th bet is just scary. Sometimes he'll turn over the same hand. I think part of this is just being results oriented, you should keep the results out of the big hands/tough decisions that you have.
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Old 09-18-2006, 01:15 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Old 09-18-2006, 02:52 PM #9 (permalink)  
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You overplay your hands pretty badly.
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Old 09-18-2006, 09:43 PM #10 (permalink)  
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Yeah sometimes I do.
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Old 09-18-2006, 10:50 PM #11 (permalink)  
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 not continuing on the flop with the 69h hand is completely asinine
raise his turn bet as well
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Old 09-18-2006, 11:49 PM #12 (permalink)  
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What in the world are you doing playing $100 NL?

Are you rolled? The hands I see you post say you need to beat $25 at least......
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Old 09-19-2006, 04:39 PM #13 (permalink)  
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Hand one, fold preflop. Don't get involved. No way I lead river when that second J falls and my hand sux....

Hand two, either raise like you mean it or fold. Raise to $15-$10. Lead turn, if he calls turn and checks river, I check behind.

Hand three, if you raise PF, bet the flop!!! If he calls the turn bet, most of the time he is not afraid of you. As played, I probably bluff the river.

Hand four, once again, if you raise PF, bet the flop!! This is a good opportunity to build the pot for your FD, too. You have to give it up on the turn, or raise the roof on that weak turn bet, whichever your read tells you to do. He could very well be holding a king, but he could also be testing his PP to see if it's good.

Hand five, don't call raises with KQo. Too easily dominated by a PFR range (unless his is 20%). Pick a better spot. After that it's not played badly.

88--five handed, I raise PF. Then you can take it down on flop. With some of the crap you have been raising, you would probably get a call PF if you raise, too. I raise PF, lead flop, lead turn, lead river but fold to a raise on any street.

KQ, you hit your Q on the flop. Opp calling your flop bet then 4 betting you on turn says you are behind. That being said, I have a knack for paying off sets myself.
Quit minraising, though....
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