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r8ed

01-11-2006, 04:53 AM Post subject: Missed value bet?

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I wish the Qs didn't come out. Either way, should I have min-raised and hope for a call or push? I didn't want to leave money behind as I was sure he probably had AK and hoped AQ. All I know about him (from full ring) is shows down winners > 50%.

r8ed is at seat 1 with 190.40
Becko is at seat 3 with 132.74
rouwd is at seat 4 with 3.35
ganeshblue is at seat 5 with 90.10

rouwd posts the large blind 1.00
Becko posts the small blind 0.50

r8ed: 5h, 5c

Pre-flop:
ganeshblue: Raise 2.00
r8ed: Call 2.00
Becko: Fold
rouwd: Call 2.00

Flop (Board: 4d, 5d, As):
rouwd: Check
ganeshblue: Bet 5.00
r8ed: Raise 10.00
rouwd: Fold
ganeshblue: Call 10.00

Turn (Board: 4d, 5d, As, 8s):
ganeshblue: Check
r8ed: Bet 10.00
ganeshblue: Call 10.00

River (Board: 4d, 5d, As, 8s, Qs):
ganeshblue: Bet 20.00
r8ed: All in
ganeshblue: Fold

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bdawg56kg

01-11-2006, 07:57 AM

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First of all, was this full ring or 4-handed? I think you definitely need to get more money in on either the flop or turn or both. That turn bet sucks. I think you lost a lot of value there. Make it at least $20. I like raising the flop hard, at least to $15, then depending on if it's full ring or short handed and how aware villian is, I might either bet or check the turn. I'd lean more towards betting if it was shorthanded and checking if it was a full table and if villian was an aware player. If I bet the turn it's probably around $30, and if I check the turn I bet full pot on the river (repping a busted flush draw). As played tho, river push is fine, since villian only has about $50 left, and anything other than a push would smell really fishy.

Also, how can you be so sure that he has AK/AQ? Is a flush draw out of the question?

r8ed

01-11-2006, 02:00 PM

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I think a flush draw is out of the question (and did at the time) - he's not much of a chaser, especially against a reraise. That's why I figure he has an Ace (maybe two pair?). If he had AQ, then he probably would have called the river push. He was fairly tight preflop and he raised. $2 is his standard - never varies even in full ring.

In hindsight my turn bet was too weak. At the time I wanted to bet enough to get some money in there but appear a little weak so he could make a confident reraise or river bet. If I was smarter, I would have bet $20 and got him more committed. I think anything too high may scream set and scare him off.

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