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Old 11-01-2009, 08:52 PM     Post subject: mini-flush vs fish 100nl #1 (permalink)  
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 villain is 44-11 fish who likes calling and showdowns.
Relevant history is me betting like a 'tard cos i though i had big blind specialled a straight but somehow the 4c transformed into the 6c and i had a gutshot vs his quads... so he probably views me as pretty out-there dumb.

another interesting hand that is kinda relevant is him utg limping J8o, min raising sb lead on J85 mono, potting 6 turn when checked to and obviously calling his rivered boat vs 55 (this wasn't me)
i've also seen him slowplay middle set multiway on Q74rb.

curious about turn and river sizing.
I think turn should be a lot bigger or a check.
My hand is well disguised, river could almost be a shove?

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CO ($239.45)
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Preflop: Hero is SB with 10, 8
2 folds, MP2 bets $3, CO calls $3, 1 fold, Hero calls $2.50, BB calls $2

Flop: ($12) 5, 6, 2 (4 players)
Hero bets $8, 2 folds, CO calls $8

Turn: ($28) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $14, CO calls $14

River: ($56) K (2 players)
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Old 11-01-2009, 09:06 PM #2 (permalink)  
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22 on turn, shove river. I might be missing something but this is a 44/11, how are we not playing for stacks when the flush hits on the turn?
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Old 11-01-2009, 09:36 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Yeah $21 on turn but even then I would like to c/r this river. He's betting almost everything that calls a shove (slowplaying read is helpful here) and there's loads of air in his range that will bluff.
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Old 11-01-2009, 09:54 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Yeah $21 on turn but even then I would like to c/r this river. He's betting almost everything that calls a shove (slowplaying read is helpful here) and there's loads of air in his range that will bluff.
You think he will bet 88-QQ, 78. I think he checks back alot of hands he might convince himself to call a shove with. He might even check back some bad 2 pairs.
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Old 11-01-2009, 09:58 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Bet soooo much bigger. There are a tonne of 2 pair/pair + straight drair/ Straights/ Hell probably even gutshots that just arent folding on the turn. I make the river pretty big aswell since he isnt folding a 2pair to a PSB.

I go for like 3/4 pot on the turn and another 2/3-3/4 on the river.

edit: Also probably fold preflop. I know hes a fish, but we dont have position here and our hand sucks.
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Old 11-01-2009, 11:29 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Yeah I didn't read the history. Definitely try and get the money in by betting (even if that means overbetting) given that he thinks you're some sort of bluffing lunatic.

Without that history though I really like a c/r. I don't think you're going to get called by 88-QQ when you bet big and betting smaller obv loses a lot of value against the top of his range. There is just so much air he can have like oesds, missed clubs etc.
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Old 11-02-2009, 01:06 AM #7 (permalink)  
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 you're turn sizing is pretty terrible
 
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Old 11-02-2009, 03:32 PM #8 (permalink)  
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turn sizing is rly rly poor
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Old 11-02-2009, 09:13 PM     Post subject: Re: mini-flush vs fish 100nl #9 (permalink)  
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I think turn should be a lot bigger or a check.
yep, everyone agrees that the turn sizing sucked balls.
If i got that right then there wouldn't even need to be a question about river sizing.
Thanks.
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Old 11-03-2009, 02:46 AM #10 (permalink)  
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yeah, fish definitely calls a large turn &river bet here.
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