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daven
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04-08-2009, 04:30 AM
Post subject: min-pfr - call, hit set on ace high, river ace - line?
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Note reads.
villain has super-narrow ranges pre-flop, but is aggro with it. He's sick of me after a previous showdown where i value bet third pair vs his overcards. He likes to 3-bet too, but hates to fold - min-raise pre is occasional but balanced thanks to chris ferguson. The donk is standard on this sort of board against a villain like this wiho has range TT+/AJ+ in this spot. He isn't folding any of it cos he thinks I might be fos.
He also KNOWS that i lead the turn again with a set, but only bets the turn himself with an ace. Check-call turn confirms his belief that I'm fos. Come the river and he's calling a bet if he has an ace, and folding everything else. He's betting any ace and will struggle to fold AQ to a cr shove, maybe fold AJ. Line thoughts?
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
MP2 ($110.30)
CO ($105.65)
Button ($149.90)
SB ($114.95)
BB ($92.90)
UTG ($125.35)
Hero (UTG+1) ($126.65)
MP1 ($94.90)
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 4 , 4
1 fold, Hero bets $2, MP1 raises to $5, 5 folds, Hero calls $3
Flop: ($11.50) 10, A , 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $8, MP1 calls $8
Turn: ($27.50) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $11, Hero calls $11
River: ($49.50) A (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $26, Hero raises to $102.65 (All-In),
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Deanglow
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checkraising the turn looks a lot more full of shit than this line
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mcatdog
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04-08-2009, 05:45 AM
Post subject: Re: min-pfr - call, hit set on ace high, river ace - line?
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Originally Posted by daven
Check-call turn confirms his belief that I'm fos
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ZwiFT
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I still bet turn, or c/r turn shove river
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Donk the river!!!!!
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I don't like the flop donk.. I probably c/r flop and just get it in like that given reads.
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daven
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thanks. Consensus seems that I should have been getting more money in on earlier streets - e.g. cr turn.
That's the feedback I was after, i recognised after playing the hand that I was probably quite lucky to get his stack (he insta-called AQ)
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mxiu
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this is a typical muck for me pf.. I've never min-raised pf with any hands, any more on this?
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this is a typical muck for me pf.. I've never min-raised pf with any hands, any more on this?
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your standard preflop raise becomes a minraise for all of you range - 22/54s/AA
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Everyone thinks their kelisitaan these days
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"the world def needs more bikeses"
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daven
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Everyone thinks their kelisitaan these days
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i had to google kelisitaan - but I am finding it interesting to run a 20-80 mix on pfr sizing without range bias.
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yeah i'd fold preflop initially, but I wouldn't fold to his tiny 3bet
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ZwiFT
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WXU
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woh the fuck do ppl muc tyhis pre flop
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bikes
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a hot damn mess
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Originally Posted by ZwiFT
WXU
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woh the fuck do ppl muc tyhis pre flop
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Anyone have a moon speak translator?
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"the world def needs more bikeses"
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ATOTHEC101
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WXU
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woh the fuck do ppl muc tyhis pre flop
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He even acts and sounds like his avatar!
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