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Halv

07-08-2006, 03:33 AM Post subject: Middle set on flop. Standard, right?

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Villain is a bit LP preflop, slightly aggressive postflop.

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UTG ($79)
UTG+1 ($40.50)
UTG+2 ($45.20)
MP1 ($19.75)
MP2 ($53)
MP3 ($50)
Hero ($49.50)
Button ($87.50)
SB ($50.25)
BB ($45.75)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J

, J

. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
6 folds, Hero raises to $2, Button raises to $5.2, 2 folds, Hero calls $3.20.

Flop: ($11.15) 4

, K

, J

(2 players)
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07-08-2006, 04:51 AM

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There's a lot of ways I think this hand could conceivably be played, but I don't see anything wrong with the line you took.

You're obviously never getting away here if you're beat, so figure out how to get the money in against AK/AA and you're good.

Renton

07-08-2006, 06:59 AM

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i think bet/3bet line is best on this flop, if he's a strong player he'll put draws in your range.

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07-08-2006, 07:58 AM

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there are a lot of lines you can use, they all involve getting all-in, but i like yours best here esp with so little behind.

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07-08-2006, 01:21 PM

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yah, with only 18 behind it's all getting in there.

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07-08-2006, 01:23 PM

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i think bet/3bet line is best on this flop, if he's a strong player he'll put draws in your range.

I'm gonna hijack my own thread: should draws be in my range here? He obviously didn't put them in my range, he folded. Which leads me to think that draws _should_ be in my range here more often than it is.

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07-08-2006, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Renton

i think bet/3bet line is best on this flop, if he's a strong player he'll put draws in your range.

Put him on AK w/no diamonds and you with QdTd:

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Board: Jd 4d Kh
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equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 52.1212 % 52.12% 00.00% { QdTd }
Hand 2: 47.8788 % 47.88% 00.00% { AcKc }

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07-08-2006, 07:09 PM

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yes, you should be doing this with QdTd, AdQd, KdQd, and etc. if the player is in any way capable of laying down a pair.

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07-08-2006, 08:00 PM

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I like a call/lead turn best.

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07-08-2006, 09:13 PM

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I like a call/lead turn best.

this isnt a bit results oriented?

couple of scare cards can land on the turn (straighting and flush-ening) 3-betting is appropriate.

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07-08-2006, 09:25 PM

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Yeah, with a coordinated board and a half stack this is a clear flop 3bet-push.

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07-09-2006, 12:58 AM

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so if we dont lose a stack here we didnt play it right imo.

Stick this at 400nl and we might have a non standard question.

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07-09-2006, 02:43 AM

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I like a call/lead turn best.

this isnt a bit results oriented?

couple of scare cards can land on the turn (straighting and flush-ening) 3-betting is appropriate.

Eh maybe I guess.

But if I chose call / lead turn I pretty much made up my mind I'm putting my stack in no matter what falls on the turn.

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07-09-2006, 06:16 AM

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[But if I chose call / lead turn I pretty much made up my mind I'm putting my stack in no matter what falls on the turn.

I remember getting flak'ed on the "decide to get all in biut dont push just yet" line in the SnG forum a while back, but I think this might be a place to use it. But WTF Im drunk now, Im gonna try and put my thoughts down tomorrow. (lets all laugh at me lol)

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