Poker Forum

Over 1,247,000 Posts!

REGISTER
Subscribe to FTR web feed
Already Registered?      Username:    Password:   Remember      Forgot Password

Poker Forum

  > 

Full Ring NL Hold'em

  > 

Medium pocket pair play

  
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
ProZachNation
Old 03-13-2006, 06:44 PM     Post subject: Medium pocket pair play #1 (permalink)  
ProZachNation's Avatar
Full House

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Over there!
Posts: 801
ProZachNation
No real reads on this guy

What do you think of my line?

PokerStars Game #4275066766: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2006/03/13 - 14:35:43 (ET)
Table 'Gienah III' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: timleery ($9.65 in chips)
Seat 3: Hovardio ($10.80 in chips)
Seat 5: jantje123 ($10.45 in chips)
Seat 6: the_muldoon ($8.50 in chips)
Seat 7: cditttymacda ($13.20 in chips)
Seat 9: ProZachNatio ($9.10 in chips)
cditttymacda: posts small blind $0.05
ProZachNatio: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ProZachNatio [8d 8h]
Loop#16 joins the table at seat #2
timleery: folds
Hovardio: folds
jantje123: folds
the_muldoon: raises $0.20 to $0.30
cditttymacda: folds
cditttymacda is sitting out
ProZachNatio: calls $0.20
*** FLOP *** [5c 3h 7c]
cditttymacda leaves the table
MrLynX joins the table at seat #4
ProZachNatio: bets $0.30
the_muldoon: raises $0.70 to $1
ProZachNatio: raises $2 to $3
Lanimo joins the table at seat #7
the_muldoon: calls $2
*** TURN *** [5c 3h 7c] [3c]
ProZachNatio: bets $3
the_muldoon: raises $2.20 to $5.20 and is all-in
MD & DAD joins the table at seat #8
ProZachNatio: calls $2.20
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrhappy333
I didn't think its Bold to bang some chick with my bro. but i guess so... thats +EV in my book.
 
Reply With Quote

Play for FREE and practice your game at...

Join the FTR Poker Forum to disable these banners and start posting!
nutsinho
Old 03-13-2006, 07:56 PM #2 (permalink)  
nutsinho's Avatar
4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
Posts: 3,280
nutsinho will become famous soon enough
 gross...you can safely check/fold the turn
My bankroll is the amount of money I would spend or lose before I got a job. It is calculated by adding my net worth to whatever I can borrow.
 
Reply With Quote
Fnord
Old 03-13-2006, 08:23 PM #3 (permalink)  
Fnord's Avatar
Moderator

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: I'll Do You Like A Truck
Posts: 19,336
Fnord is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via MSN to Fnord
You're rarely good here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y
 
Reply With Quote
ProZachNation
Old 03-13-2006, 11:05 PM #4 (permalink)  
ProZachNation's Avatar
Full House

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Over there!
Posts: 801
ProZachNation
Can anyone explain or go into more depth on what I can put him on here? Or how I could figure out how to put him on a hand here.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrhappy333
I didn't think its Bold to bang some chick with my bro. but i guess so... thats +EV in my book.
 
Reply With Quote
Fnord
Old 03-13-2006, 11:16 PM #5 (permalink)  
Fnord's Avatar
Moderator

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: I'll Do You Like A Truck
Posts: 19,336
Fnord is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via MSN to Fnord
A set or bigger pair.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y
 
Reply With Quote
bdawg56kg
Old 03-13-2006, 11:19 PM #6 (permalink)  
bdawg56kg's Avatar
Full House

Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Honolulu
Posts: 1,201
bdawg56kg
Send a message via AIM to bdawg56kg
Lead for at least 3/4 pot (full pot would be better here) or check and see what happens. I hate the flop 3-bet. If you're willing to go to the felt here, I would CR AI a safe turn, but that's besides the point because as Fnord said, you're rarely good here.
Reply With Quote
nutsinho
Old 03-14-2006, 12:38 AM #7 (permalink)  
nutsinho's Avatar
4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
Posts: 3,280
nutsinho will become famous soon enough
 Once he calls a 3bet, unless he is a COMPLETE asswipe, he has a big pair, a set, or two high clubs. Thus, the third club on the turn solidifies the fact that you're drawing to two outs.
My bankroll is the amount of money I would spend or lose before I got a job. It is calculated by adding my net worth to whatever I can borrow.
 
Reply With Quote
ProZachNation
Old 03-14-2006, 01:06 AM #8 (permalink)  
ProZachNation's Avatar
Full House

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Over there!
Posts: 801
ProZachNation
Quote:
Originally Posted by nutsinho
Once he calls a 3bet, unless he is a COMPLETE asswipe, he has a big pair, a set, or two high clubs. Thus, the third club on the turn solidifies the fact that you're drawing to two outs.
ORLY?

I actually put him on two over likes AT+ buuuuuuuuut heres what he did have......



*** RIVER *** [5c 3h 7c 3c] [4c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ProZachNatio: shows [8d 8h] (two pair, Eights and Threes)
the_muldoon: mucks hand
ProZachNatio collected $16.25 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $17.05 | Rake $0.80
Board [5c 3h 7c 3c 4c]
Seat 1: timleery folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Hovardio folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: jantje123 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: the_muldoon (button) mucked [Qs 5d]
Seat 7: cditttymacda (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: ProZachNatio (big blind) showed [8d 8h] and won ($16.25) with two pair, Eights and Threes

Im lucky his fool ass didnt have a club.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrhappy333
I didn't think its Bold to bang some chick with my bro. but i guess so... thats +EV in my book.
 
Reply With Quote
Fnord
Old 03-14-2006, 01:13 AM #9 (permalink)  
Fnord's Avatar
Moderator

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: I'll Do You Like A Truck
Posts: 19,336
Fnord is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via MSN to Fnord
*laugh*

With no read or reason to think he's terrible, you lose this hand a lot. However, it's easy to under-estimate how often you are good here once you learn to play tight poker. In any case, that's poker baby. Pay more attention and move onto the next hand.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y
 
Reply With Quote
nutsinho
Old 03-14-2006, 01:27 PM #10 (permalink)  
nutsinho's Avatar
4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
Posts: 3,280
nutsinho will become famous soon enough
 so he was a complete asswipe...you said you didn't have any reads so you can't really brag about this
My bankroll is the amount of money I would spend or lose before I got a job. It is calculated by adding my net worth to whatever I can borrow.
 
Reply With Quote
biondino
Old 03-14-2006, 04:20 PM #11 (permalink)  
4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Putney, UK; Full Tilt,Mansion; $50 NL and PL; $13 and $16 SNGs at Stars
Posts: 3,170
biondino
Send a message via AIM to biondino Send a message via MSN to biondino
Thing is, Zach, even at $25NL this will lose you LOTS of money. He is telling you, repeatedly, that he has a strong hand. He *could* mean A7, feasibly, but a lower PP isn't happening unless it setted for him (and microlimit donks just don't ever raise PF with a low PP). I would have probably put him on TT-QQ, I think, but the key thing here is that he re-raises you on both the flop and, even after your re-re-raise, on the turn. In a novice player this will almost always mean a better hand.

You have put 2/3 of a stack in here with a mid pair on a co-ordinated board against a villain showing a LOT of strength. It'll usually end in tears.
Reply With Quote
Miffed22001
Old 03-14-2006, 04:34 PM #12 (permalink)  
Miffed22001's Avatar
Straight Flush

Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Marry Me Cheryl!!!
Posts: 8,181
Miffed22001 is on a distinguished road
 the flop line is horrible IMO
note: IMO!
Reply With Quote
Reply
Latest Poker News
dlbarlowe Old 06-01-2012, 11:03 AM    White House Responds to Poker Players Alliance's Petition
After receiving a petition scripted by the Poker Players Alliance approximately eight months ago, the Obama administration recently issued a response prepared by Brian Deese, the Deputy Director of th ...

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »
Thread Tools
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT. The time now is 11:02 PM.

Contact Us - Archive - Top

FTR Testimonials

All content
© FlopTurnRiver.com 		Advertising  |   Partners  |   Testimonials  |   T&C  |   Contact Us  |   FTR News & Press  |   Site Map  |   Search FTR

Full Tilt  |   Titan Poker  |   UltimateBet  |   Poker Stars  |   Ladbrokes Bonus  |   Sportsbook  |   Cake Poker  

Play Texas Holdem Online, Online Texas Holdem Strategy, & Poker Forum
This is not a gambling website.