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Old 05-01-2006, 05:40 PM     Post subject: Maximizing value on a Monster #1 (permalink)  
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What do you think of my line? Should I have slowed down on the turn? Even though I stacked him, I feel like I probably could have played it better...

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Hero ($51.20)
Button ($8)
SB ($72.99)
BB ($46.95)
UTG ($44.11)
UTG+1 ($14.45)
MP1 ($49.25)
MP2 ($35.88)
MP3 ($68.30)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J, J. Hero posts a blind of $0.75. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
3 folds, MP2 calls $0.50, MP3 raises to $2, Hero (poster) raises to $4.5, 3 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $3.

Flop: ($11.50) 3, T, A (2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero bets $8, MP3 calls $8.

Turn: ($27.50) J (2 players)
MP3 bets $3, Hero raises to $10, MP3 calls $7.

River: ($47.50) T (2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero pushes all-in, MP3 calls $27.95.

Final Pot: $75.45
 
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Old 05-01-2006, 05:43 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Looks ok to me.
 
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Old 05-01-2006, 05:48 PM #3 (permalink)  
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you need to raise the turn alot more, at least 20ish
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Old 05-01-2006, 05:51 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 I play it a little different. First of all, I reraise at least to 5.5 preflop. Then on the flop I will bet about 2/3 pot (about what you bet), and on the turn I will raise his bet to about 2/3 the pot.

My way gets a lot more money in the pot earlier, while protecting against flush draws. You're play depended on him making a bad call on the river (some players won't call 30 in that spot).
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Old 05-01-2006, 06:13 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Ok, so Gabe and Renton, you both seem to agree the turn bet should've been around $18-20. Let me ask you--don't you worry about running him out of the hand w/ that large of a bet?
 
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Old 05-01-2006, 06:19 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Ok, so Gabe and Renton, you both seem to agree the turn bet should've been around $18-20. Let me ask you--don't you worry about running him out of the hand w/ that large of a bet?
You should almost never bet small and scared of runnin people out. Usually in full ring you are either stacking someone or you aren't. A few dollars here and there doesn't generally make a difference, particularly against bad players. What difference a few dollars more DOES make is a potential calling mistake for your opponent. He could very well have been betting small like that to price in his flush draw, and you gave him perfect odds with your less than strong raise.

And it sucks to lose with a set to a flush, particularly when you opponent made no mistakes to get it.
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Old 05-01-2006, 06:22 PM #7 (permalink)  
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K, thx, Rents.

Now let me ask you this:

What if your opponent is playing slap bass, hmmm? Then what?
 
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Old 05-01-2006, 06:37 PM #8 (permalink)  
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You should almost never bet small and scared of runnin people out.
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Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
 
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