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Old 12-07-2005, 10:04 PM     Post subject: made flush on turn..ai? #1 (permalink)  
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Game #1523481403: Hold'em NL ($0.25/$0.50) - 2005/12/07 - 16:48:56 (ET)
Table "Persimmon" Seat 4 is the button.
Seat 1: moozzii ($43.15 in chips)
Seat 2: LouLatour ($50.35 in chips)
Seat 3: Xelor ($46.35 in chips)
Seat 4: Rolexxvi ($272.94 in chips)
Seat 5: journey75 ($54.70 in chips)
Seat 6: spiritzon ($28.15 in chips)
journey75: posts small blind $0.25
spiritzon: posts big blind $0.50
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to journey75 [9d 4d]
moozzii: folds
LouLatour: calls $0.50
Xelor: folds
Rolexxvi: folds
journey75: calls $0.25
spiritzon: checks
----- FLOP ----- [Jd 6d 8s]
journey75: checks
spiritzon: checks
LouLatour: checks
----- TURN ----- [Jd 6d 8s][Qd]
journey75: checks
spiritzon: checks
LouLatour: bets $1
journey75: raises to $2.50
spiritzon: folds
LouLatour: raises to $5
journey75: raises to $8
LouLatour: raises to $49.85 and is all-in
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Old 12-07-2005, 10:16 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Hmmm...it's possible he has a higher flush. Latour limped in EP...I would think for him to raise then re-raise AI he'd have the K or A. Straight is possible, but not SF.

Maybe slow playing a set? Pretty risky to go AI with a flush on the board unless he has a higher one.
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Old 12-07-2005, 10:29 PM #3 (permalink)  
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i think that his flush is higher than urs.
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Old 12-07-2005, 10:30 PM #4 (permalink)  
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The way you played this hand you must not like money.

That being said, if ever there was a time to laydown a flush...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
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Old 12-07-2005, 10:44 PM #5 (permalink)  
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I payoff. Without four to a fluh on the board, I pay off with non-nut flushes on non-paired boards.

I might think about laying it down with a good read.
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Old 12-07-2005, 10:46 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I think it very likely he has a higher flush. Limping from EP then going nuts on a flush board makes it very likely he has one of the AKT diamonds that are out there.
I lost a hand last night almost identical to this.
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Old 12-07-2005, 11:33 PM #7 (permalink)  
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The way you played this hand you must not like money.

That being said, if ever there was a time to laydown a flush...
you need to splain.
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Old 12-07-2005, 11:34 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Pre-flop: Meh
Pot the flop
Lead the turn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y
 
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Old 12-07-2005, 11:40 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Pot the flop
Lead the turn
why would i lead the flop oop without a spectacular draw? although this is a fine line, i dont think its the best way to play this hand.

leading turn would be okay, but i figured i had the best hand and id see how other people played.

he had a slightly higher flush and i paid it off with my stack.

edit: as to the pf argument, ill call anything remotely suited or connected from the sb. implied odds at this stake are huge.
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Old 12-07-2005, 11:53 PM #10 (permalink)  
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Have you been watching too much poker TV?

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why would i lead the flop oop without a spectacular draw?
Because if the limper had a real hand he would have raised. The BB has 2 random cards. In short, neither one has much of anything, probably missed this flop horribly and $1.5 is a nice return on your SB investment.

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leading turn would be okay, but i figured i had the best hand and id see how other people played.
Ahhh, here is the rub. You've failed to build a pot and probably haven't given enough action for anyone who isn't donating to pay you off with anything less than an over-pair. Hence, you're left with the last desperate hope of the passive nit. "I hope he either bluffs, caught second best or slow played a second best on the flop so I can play a big pot."

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edit: as to the pf argument, ill call anything remotely suited or connected from the sb. implied odds at this stake are huge.
3-way, nothing pot and no one has shown must of an interest in their hand. I'd rather steal small pots in situations like this. If this was a 5 card draw game, I would seriously consider raising it pre-draw, standing pat with my garbage hand then blast away hoping no one caught trips (because the fish think trips beat a pat hand) or a 1 card draw. But I digress...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
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Old 12-08-2005, 07:27 AM #11 (permalink)  
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I would bet the flop but that's up to you. I like leading the turn for $1.50. If he raises, I would come back over the top, and if he pushes I grit my teeth and fold. Also, I don't like your little reraises. With over 100BB+ on the table, these little raises mean almost nothing and don't get you the information you need. Without a read on villian, I probably fold it given the way you played it.
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