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Halv
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07-08-2006, 03:40 AM
Post subject: Lost with KK UTG.
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No reads on Button. Someone give me a new line here please. I'm thinking maybe lead turn for around 1/2 pot and fold to a raise, check-fold blank river if called?
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ 50BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
saw flop|saw showdown
MP1 ($48.65)
MP2 ($43.55)
MP3 ($69.30)
CO ($44.25)
Button ($52.25)
SB ($49.50)
BB ($109.60)
Hero ($65.30)
UTG+1 ($9.95)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with K , K . SB posts a blind of $0.25.
Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, MP2 calls $2, 2 folds, Button calls $2, 1 fold, BB calls $1.50.
Flop: ($8.25) 4 , 6 , J (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $7.6, MP2 folds, Button calls $7.60, BB folds.
Turn: ($23.45) J (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $12, Hero calls $12.
River: ($47.45) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.
Final Pot: $47.45
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Fnord
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check/folding the turn is fine too.
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freechus9
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Yea, there's not much here you beat. Diamond chasers only, because all Js just had a field day.
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My sig is too much for you to handle.
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Halv
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Originally Posted by Fnord
check/folding the turn is fine too.
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Yeah, what do I beat on the turn? AJ just kicked my ass, a set just filled up, AA still kicks my ass, and a slowplayed flopped flush still does too.
Does QQ call flop/bet turn here enough that it is worth calling? I don't really think so. I think this hand should end on the turn one way or another, since any pot that gets shown down probably won't go to me.
C/f looks really weak tight to me though, it sets me up to be floated/bluffed out of pots so easily. But then again I don't really think someone is floating me on this board, so I should not play sheriff here.
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Lukie
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Betting the turn and folding to a raise/shutting down to a call is another option. He could still have a lot of mid pairs (probably with a diamond), the bare ace of diamonds, etc. If we're called, I tend to think against most players the river will check through if we're good, but despite that it would be an obvious c/f to any sort of a meaningful bet if we don't improve.
I don't see anything wrong with check/folding either. I may check/call against a habitual floater who will often give up on the river.
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Halv
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Thanks guys. I think I'm going to go with a lead turn/fold to raise, c/f river if called line against unknowns.
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Fnord
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Against a total unknown I tend to pick my spots carefuly to play a juicy pot. Hence, I give this guy a donk mulligan and just c/f.
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