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Old 12-20-2006, 02:36 AM     Post subject: Lost on this hand #1 (permalink)  
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Not a hand I'm normally raising from MP, but I was doing well against these two villains in particular, raising their limps and c-betting the flop.

This seems terrible, but I'm not sure what to change. Check behind flop? Villains are loose, BB is 49/9, UTG is 34/1. No real post-flop reads. (edit: Besides that they know how to fold, obv.)

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Stack sizes:
UTG: $130.80
UTG+1: $22.65
MP1: $21.30
Hero: $120.50
CO: $119.70
Button: $111.15
SB: $38.65
BB: $60.95

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is MP2 with 9 K
UTG calls, 2 folds, Hero raises to $5, 3 folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: A 3 7 ($15.5, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $12, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: T ($51.5, 3 players)
BB bets $10, UTG calls, Hero calls.

River: 2 ($81.5, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $15, Hero folds, BB calls.
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Old 12-20-2006, 03:41 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 Looks fine, there's no way I am raising on the turn after UTG calls. Turn call is good. UTG's river bet looks weak, but I think making a move there is foolhardy.
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Old 12-21-2006, 03:52 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Old 12-21-2006, 04:09 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 pre-flop, fine. Isolating a player you have an edge on.
Flop I check-behind sometimes, especially if I've been pushing them around. Betting works here more often then it should so it's ok. Also, there is the whole checking with the nut draw which I haven't re-read yet so I'm not sure how that applies.

Turn no way you fold, pot odds to chase. I'm putting BB on AT.

I'm not sure why you think this is so bad?
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Old 12-21-2006, 05:06 PM #5 (permalink)  

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I think you played this hand just fine. Of course raising pre-flop with K9s is a little loose, but a LAG style is a winning style. Then pos-flop you make a C-bet, they have to fold if they don´t have the A and you have outs if they have. Then on turn you have pot odds. Just fine, I guess...
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Old 12-21-2006, 05:08 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Old 12-21-2006, 05:21 PM #7 (permalink)  
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kthx. Guess I thought there were two marginal decisions, the pre-flop raise and the c-bet. But after thinking through it some more, I'd probably play it the same way again.

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BB had AKo
UTG had AQo
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Old 12-21-2006, 06:58 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Only reason to check flop is to trap worse flush draws. Obv agin' these bozos with the PFR, c-betting here is perfect. With the call, you can safely assume at least one has an A they won't lay down.

You could maybe raise river vs. one weak villian, but not 2.
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:14 PM #9 (permalink)  
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 its fine. Shame you didnt hit, you might get paid via a stack as it seems the guy leading caught two pair? (AT).
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