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Old 04-03-2005, 05:41 AM     Post subject: Lost another buyin on KK #1 (permalink)  
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Don't really have a read on the guy as he sat down a few hands ago.
Was I an idiot to call the all in ?

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$50 NL Hold'em - Sunday, April 03, 01:24:38 EDT 2005
Table Table 37425 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: raskuache ( $161.37 )
Seat 2: beaumont23 ( $0 )
Seat 3: SSpade ( $65.55 )
Seat 4: Timmyc5 ( $42.45 )
Seat 6: TrouQ ( $61.1 )
Seat 7: gogreenmoney ( $37.3 )
Seat 8: CertifiedPA ( $104.45 )
Seat 9: ralllykalle ( $88.6 )
Seat 10: BigBadBooBoo ( $45.35 )
Seat 5: hbrockus ( $50 )
BigBadBooBoo posts small blind [$0.25].
raskuache posts big blind [$0.5].
hbrockus posts big blind [$0.5].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ralllykalle [ Kh Ks ]
SSpade calls [$0.5].
Timmyc5 calls [$0.5].
hbrockus checks.
TrouQ folds.
gogreenmoney raises [$3].
CertifiedPA folds.
ralllykalle raises [$5.5].
BigBadBooBoo folds.
raskuache folds.
SSpade folds.
Timmyc5 folds.
hbrockus folds.
gogreenmoney calls [$2.5].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8s, 3d, 9d ]
gogreenmoney checks.
ralllykalle bets [$10].
gogreenmoney is all-In.
ralllykalle calls [$21.8].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5s ]
** Dealing River ** [ Jd ]
ralllykalle shows [ Kh, Ks ] a pair of kings.
gogreenmoney shows [ 8d, 8c ] three of a kind, eights.
gogreenmoney wins $73.85 from the main pot with three of a kind, eights.
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Old 04-03-2005, 07:18 AM #2 (permalink)  
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reraise much more preflop.

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Old 04-03-2005, 08:05 AM #3 (permalink)  
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He's raising 11x the BB. How much does he need to raise?
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Old 04-03-2005, 08:11 AM #4 (permalink)  
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I reraise AI
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Old 04-03-2005, 08:25 AM #5 (permalink)  
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I do raise larger preflop, which has a good chance of weeding out those 8s. Regardless, I call the all-in as you did in either scenario.
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Old 04-03-2005, 08:26 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Triptanes
I reraise AI
WHAT?!?!
You've got to know when to drop KK, but not avoid the situation alltogether by only getting hte blinds with KK and AA!

This situation, I do exactly what he did. After all, it was a puny little stack that did it to him.
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Old 04-03-2005, 08:33 AM #7 (permalink)  
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reraise much more preflop.

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Too much more and hes only gonna get called by the hand i like
 
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Old 04-03-2005, 10:30 AM #8 (permalink)  
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well he only made a min reraise on top of the first raise, i'd suggest bumping it up slightly more to maybe $7 or so
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Old 04-03-2005, 01:02 PM #9 (permalink)  
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That's true, it was only a min raise. I'd have probably pushed, you can't really worry about AA all the time when you've got KK. Once the flop does come you should be losing your stack really, trips are rare. With taller stacks it's possible you might have figured him for trips but i doubt it.
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Old 04-03-2005, 01:07 PM #10 (permalink)  
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I make it half his stack to call preflop.
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Old 04-03-2005, 02:11 PM #11 (permalink)  
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I'd go 3 X the amount of his raise, so $9 or so.

Basing it on opp's stack is fun, too, but I'd only go 1/3rd of that
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Old 04-03-2005, 04:07 PM #12 (permalink)  
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Too much more and hes only gonna get called by the hand i like
Aces! Haven't you been teaching me not to worry about AA and always push with KK preflop?

Why is this guy raising 88 preflop and calling a reraise with it? The only thing he can hope for is hitting his set...
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Old 04-03-2005, 04:47 PM #13 (permalink)  
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It was raised to 3 ahead of him and he min-reraises.

This is a mistake becuase he's declaring the strength of his hand (AKs, AA, KK) without it costing much to the opponent.

It's giving away free information in a game where information directly correlates into money.

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Old 04-03-2005, 04:50 PM #14 (permalink)  
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Quote:
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I reraise AI
WHAT?!?!
You've got to know when to drop KK, but not avoid the situation alltogether by only getting hte blinds with KK and AA!

This situation, I do exactly what he did. After all, it was a puny little stack that did it to him.
AI is better than the minreraise.

In your scenario, you'll usually win just 2.5 more.

And the AI only needs to get called once in a blue moon to compensate for that.

People do stupid things.

Note: I only said better, not the best.

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Old 04-03-2005, 04:52 PM #15 (permalink)  
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reraise much more preflop.

-'rilla
Too much more and hes only gonna get called by the hand i like
If that's the issue, then he shouldn't re-raise at all.

Take a flop with concealed strength and reduced information about your opponent.

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Old 04-04-2005, 12:10 AM #16 (permalink)  
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Simple, raise more preflop and go all in on a safe flop.

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