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Old 07-01-2004, 05:23 PM     Post subject: Losing to complete crap, well not as bad as 74o #1 (permalink)  
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Went out with this hand. I had just won a decent sized pot to come back a little bit the hand before, but I was still way short stacked. My thinking pre-flop was KJo isn't that great, especially UTG, so I would limp. I think now my thinking should have been go all-in preflop or fold it. Opinions? Also, what is everyone's thoughts on playing the 84o out of the small blind? I know it's a huge multi-way pot, but is this basically an automatic fold. This same guy won a hand later playing Axo. Why does it seem like stupid play is rewarded so often?

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PokerStars Game #518102061: Tournament #1924228, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2004/07/01 - 12:50:52 (ET)
Table '1924228 54' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Yeswhynot (4445 in chips)
Seat 2: FastAdmiral (4625 in chips)
Seat 3: Matermom (7300 in chips)
Seat 4: RocksLane (12100 in chips)
Seat 5: chillipalmer (10710 in chips)
Seat 6: dombasas (2470 in chips)
Seat 7: davfagan (3595 in chips)
Seat 8: reprisal3 (3620 in chips)
Seat 9: Pokerkid4113 (19094 in chips)
Yeswhynot: posts the ante 25
FastAdmiral: posts the ante 25
Matermom: posts the ante 25
RocksLane: posts the ante 25
chillipalmer: posts the ante 25
dombasas: posts the ante 25
davfagan: posts the ante 25
reprisal3: posts the ante 25
Pokerkid4113: posts the ante 25
chillipalmer: posts small blind 100
dombasas: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to davfagan [Ks Jh]
davfagan: calls 200
reprisal3: folds
Pokerkid4113 said, "blinds going yp"
Pokerkid4113 said, "up"
Pokerkid4113: folds
Yeswhynot: calls 200
FastAdmiral: calls 200
Matermom: calls 200
RocksLane: calls 200
chillipalmer: calls 100
dombasas: checks
*** FLOP *** [Kd 8h 4h]
Pokerkid4113 said, "200/400"
chillipalmer: checks
dombasas said, "so?"
dombasas: checks
davfagan: bets 3370 and is all-in
Yeswhynot: folds
FastAdmiral: folds
Matermom: folds
RocksLane: folds
chillipalmer: calls 3370
dombasas: folds
*** TURN *** [Kd 8h 4h] [2d]
*** RIVER *** [Kd 8h 4h 2d] [Ac]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
chillipalmer: shows [8c 4d] (two pair, Eights and Fours)
davfagan: shows [Ks Jh] (a pair of Kings)
chillipalmer collected 8365 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 8365 | Rake 0
Board [Kd 8h 4h 2d Ac]
Seat 1: Yeswhynot folded on the Flop
Seat 2: FastAdmiral folded on the Flop
Seat 3: Matermom folded on the Flop
Seat 4: RocksLane (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: chillipalmer (small blind) showed [8c 4d] and won (8365) with two pair, Eights and Fours
Seat 6: dombasas (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: davfagan showed [Ks Jh] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 8: reprisal3 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Pokerkid4113 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Old 07-01-2004, 06:37 PM #2 (permalink)  
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With so many calls and he was on the SB, it wasn't completely stupid to limp in. I would have raised the pot preflop.

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Old 07-01-2004, 07:02 PM #3 (permalink)  
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With so many calls and he was on the SB, it wasn't completely stupid to limp in.
Plus the antes. The SB was 14:1 (I think) to play. Pushing from UTG with TPMK and 4 preflop limpers yet to act was pretty ballsy. There's a lot of trouble that could be lurking out there, like pocket 8's, pocket 4's or hands that dominate KJ. Even Axh could call there with 12 outs and have decent odds.
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