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pilotpa23
Old 02-25-2008, 07:44 PM     Post subject: Live .25/.50 QQ SB #1 (permalink)  

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So here comes an interesting situation, in a live .25/.50 game, 9 seats, dealt QQ in the SB, UTG limps, 3 other limpers, i make it $3.00 to go, UTG reraises to $12. He's descent player and I immediately put him on AA or KK with a limp - reraise. I've got $50 behind and he's got me covered so I'm figuring I've got implied odds to go ahead and call.

Flop goes A J 4 rainbow and I check, he bets $20 and I fold showing the queens and he shows me the kings. I'm starting to believe I should have bluffed big at this point. He's smart enough to have put me on the range of QQ-JJ-AK possibly AQ with the call, AA would have been a reraise., of those 4 hands, the only one he could beat would have been the queens.

I also had to lay down Kings to a set of 8s with an ace on the flop and a flush board on the turn earlier in the night. I knew I was destined to have a bad night when my first hand was Omaha Hi, I hadn't seen anyone play yet. UTG made it 3.50 to go, hand was JJ94 rainbow MP2 and I laid it down, flopped a jack, turned a jack and I would have had two entire stacks on that hand.
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Old 02-25-2008, 09:27 PM #2 (permalink)  
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If you put him on AA/KK then you are playing QQ the same as 22, and you don't have odds to set hunt since you are putting in almost 1/4 of your stack preflop.
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Old 02-25-2008, 09:56 PM     Post subject: Live .25/.50 QQ SB #3 (permalink)  

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I should have been more explicit, the stack amounts would have been after the call - the stack started in the $65.00 arena.
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Old 02-25-2008, 10:15 PM     Post subject: Re: Live .25/.50 QQ SB #4 (permalink)  
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I should have been more explicit, the stack amounts would have been after the call - the stack started in the $65.00 arena.
ya i did miss that part, but after your raise you have $59 behind and the re-raise is $9 more which is still bad set-hunting odds. the general rule is you need to have at least 10x the amount of the raise in both stacks (yours and villain's) to call it, and that is only good if villain will stack off every time you hit your set.
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