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Old 07-27-2006, 03:26 PM     Post subject: A little trouble getting paid #1 (permalink)  
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This is more payoff then I usually get, but I suspect I blew it on the turn.

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UTG+1 ($31.55)
MP1 ($12.10)
MP2 ($23.85)
CO ($24.20)
Button ($30.35)
Hero ($21.55)
BB ($9.95)
UTG ($14.40)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T, T.
UTG calls $0.25, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.75, MP2 calls $0.75, CO calls $0.75, Button calls $0.75.

Flop: ($5.25) 3, T, 6 (5 players)
Hero bets $5, UTG folds, MP2 folds, CO calls $5, Button folds.

Turn: ($15.25) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $7, CO folds.

Final Pot: $22.25
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Old 07-27-2006, 04:46 PM     Post subject: Re: A little trouble getting paid #2 (permalink)  
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Flop PSB makes it look like A10 with you trying to push out a flush draw. To change that up to a far weaker 1/2 pot bet the next street is fishy and looks to me like a) higher pocket than the board (QQ fits) or less likely b) a fastplayed set.

In any event I think he floated anyway with AK/AQ and was looking to hit the turn. Maybe put you on a c-bet? The fact you fired again scared him off?

If he had anything he'd c/r that bet. IMO you got all the value you were gonna get.
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Old 07-27-2006, 05:19 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 I would have actually bet more on the flop..... lol

If I put him on AKo, then 1/10th pot would be sufficient.


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 Was there even a reason to raise preflop?

Post flop I think you played this fine.

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Make it $2.25 PF. Well played after that.

Givememyleg, I always raise TT if limped to. I don't reraise with it, though. I call raises and set farm. I think how to play TT is a split camp around here....
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Old 07-27-2006, 06:25 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Was there even a reason to raise preflop?
HELL YEAH!

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$0.25 BB

UTG calls $0.25, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.75, MP2 calls $0.75, CO calls $0.75, Button calls $0.75.
With 4 limpers you've gotta make it at least $2 here.



 
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Make it $2.25 PF. Well played after that.

Givememyleg, I always raise TT if limped to. I don't reraise with it, though. I call raises and set farm. I think how to play TT is a split camp around here....
I meant the amount.

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With 4 limpers you've gotta make it at least $2 here.
Why? Raising to build a pot is a reasonable enough of a play. My only reservation is that we're out of position.
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Old 07-27-2006, 07:18 PM #10 (permalink)  
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Make it $2.25 PF. Well played after that.

Givememyleg, I always raise TT if limped to. I don't reraise with it, though. I call raises and set farm. I think how to play TT is a split camp around here....
I meant the amount.


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$0.25 BB

UTG calls $0.25, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.75, MP2 calls $0.75, CO calls $0.75, Button calls $0.75.
With 4 limpers you've gotta make it at least $2 here.
you don't really want to scare anyone off a hand though, do you? Don't you just want to sweeten the pot and hit either the 10 or have the 10's be an overpair? In a tourney I would want to get some players out, but we will often be getting outta the way if any AK or Q hits and action in front - So isn't it better just to sweeten the pot and get more players chasing us?
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Old 07-27-2006, 08:31 PM #12 (permalink)  
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Also, in a Tourney we want to conserve chips.

In a cash game we have more room to splash around a bit and make marginal plays for lots of reasons. Just keep topping off.
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Old 07-27-2006, 08:38 PM #13 (permalink)  
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 Being oop I want less limpers behind me. Showing more strength and having fewer opponents gives me more options if I miss my set.



 
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