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Old 08-14-2008, 03:43 PM     Post subject: line checks, possibly losing value against fish #1 (permalink)  
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This is the first time I have sat with villain. At the time of the first hand, less than 2 orbits in, he was around 70/10/.5. By the third hand (more like 80 hands in) he had settled in at around 60/10/1. Seemed a bit stationy, after the second hand he stopped calling when I would bet flop. I can't figure out in hands one and two what he would call a river bet that I beat, but I think hand 2 is worse than hand 1. Hand 3 was played based on hands one and two, and having seen him call another guy down with second pair in the meantime...

Renton mentions in a strat post identifying people you can value bet three streets with a pair, which this guy would seem to fit the mold of. Check these three hands out and tell me what you'd do....

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saw flop|saw showdown

MP3 ($31.50)
CO ($75.10)
Button ($111.25)
SB ($20)
BB ($272.15)
UTG ($165.10)
UTG+1 ($90.90)
MP1 ($218.20)
Cardsman ($154.30)

Preflop: Cardsman is MP2 with Q, Q.
2 folds, MP1 calls $1, Cardsman raises to $5, 5 folds, MP1 calls $4.

Flop: ($11.50) 2, 6, 8 (2 players)
MP1 checks, Cardsman bets $8, MP1 calls $8.

Turn: ($27.50) K (2 players)
MP1 checks, Cardsman bets $18, MP1 calls $18.

River: ($63.50) 4 (2 players)
MP1 checks, Cardsman checks.

Final Pot: $63.50


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saw flop|saw showdown

UTG+1 ($29.50)
MP1 ($190.10)
MP2 ($22.70)
CO ($264.15)
Button ($163.60)
SB ($100)
BB ($267.95)
Cardsman ($175.20)

Preflop: Cardsman is UTG with J, J.
Cardsman raises to $4, 6 folds, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($8.50) 3, T, Q (2 players)
BB checks, Cardsman bets $6, BB calls $6.

Turn: ($20.50) T (2 players)
BB checks, Cardsman bets $12, BB calls $12.

River: ($44.50) 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Cardsman checks.

Final Pot: $44.50

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saw flop|saw showdown

MP2 ($100)
CO ($100)
Button ($34.20)
SB ($266.25)
BB ($130.70)
UTG ($100.90)
UTG+1 ($291.20)
Cardsman ($175.20)

Preflop: Cardsman is MP1 with A, Q. CO posts a blind of $1.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1, Cardsman raises to $6, 5 folds, UTG+1 calls $5.

Flop: ($14.50) 4, 9, 3 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Cardsman bets $10, UTG+1 calls $10.

Turn: ($34.50) 9 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Cardsman checks.

River: ($34.50) Q (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Cardsman bets $25.....,
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Old 08-14-2008, 04:08 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 I think you can squeeze more value out of hand 1 but the rest looks good
 
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How much do you bet on the river in hand 1, and how to react to a raise?

I could get a couple more bux in on the turn in hand 1 but my bet isn't too far out of norm IMO.
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How much do you bet on the river in hand 1, and how to react to a raise?

I could get a couple more bux in on the turn in hand 1 but my bet isn't too far out of norm IMO.
Id bet 20 something i think and watch 8x call.
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