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Warpe
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03-14-2006, 05:25 PM
Post subject: Line check - trips on turn
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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
9 players
Converter
Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with :qh :3d
UTG calls $0.5, UTG+1 calls $0.5, 3 folds, CO calls $0.5, 2 folds, 2 folds, Hero checks.
Flop: :3s :kc :as ($2.25, 4 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks.
Turn: :3h ($2.25, 4 players)
Hero bets $2, UTG raises to $6, 2 folds, Hero raises all-in $42.9, UTG calls all-in $27.
Uncalled bets: $9.9 returned to Hero.
River: :2h ($68.25, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $68.25)
Results:
Final pot: $68.25
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Bo G
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TOAST!!!!!!
UTG had AA or KK and limped in with a hope of a raise when that didnt happen he floped a set and hoped for someone to catch something like you just did.
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Fnord
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AK fits too, toss in the donk factor. Anyway, I think pushing is really bad. Easy bet/call, check/call.
792 games 0.005 secs 158,400 games/sec
Board: As Kc 3s 3h
Dead:
equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 46.2121 % 46.21% 00.00% { Qh3d }
Hand 2: 53.7879 % 53.79% 00.00% { KK+, AKs, A3s, AKo, A3o }
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nutsinho
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what worse hand calls? You are praying for a split and you probably didnt get it.
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Worse hands call, but not often enough.
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Warpe
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Originally Posted by Fnord
AK fits too, toss in the donk factor. Anyway, I think pushing is really bad. Easy check/call.
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AK was it but I'm the donk in this hand regardless. Would a reraise (not a push) be a good line here?
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Originally Posted by Warpe
Would a reraise (not a push) be a good line here?
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It would re-open the action and build a pot when you have little (if any) edge.
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wow...way to find the table with the donk...
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Originally Posted by Warpe
Would a reraise (not a push) be a good line here?
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It would re-open the action and build a pot when you have little (if any) edge. |
So what I'm looking for here is a cheap showdown. Should I allow myself to be pushed off this hand?
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wow...way to find the table with the donk...
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We donks like to sit together 
Seriously, I've just started playing ring again after a long hiatus and in a SNG I'd push this everytime, so expect lots more line checks from me 
I'll try to keep them interesting.
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you're killing me ... what did the allin have?
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Originally Posted by naturaltan
you're killing me ... what did the allin have?
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"No way he has a 3 even though he didnt even pay to see the flop!"
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HE HAD 3 PAIR!!!
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no flush draw? 
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When BB gets to see the flop and turn for free, I'm worried about a bet from him with two 3's on the board. Which means, a re-raise from a limper would imply that they have a better hand than 333....like A3, K3, donk with AA, KK.
Lucking you ran into a donk limping AK.
Now, even if they had something like AT and thought you may have had a bad kicker, you could extract a lot more value from them without pushing all in. I'll fold with AK in villains spot.
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Originally Posted by BankItPayette
I'll fold with AK in villains spot.
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I should hope you wouldn't put yourself into that spot. Late street mistakes and difficult decisions are often the result of early street mistakes.
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Originally Posted by BankItPayette
I'll fold with AK in villains spot.
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I should hope you wouldn't put yourself into that spot. Late street mistakes and difficult decisions are often the result of early street mistakes. |
I would most certainly not.
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Originally Posted by BankItPayette
When BB gets to see the flop and turn for free, I'm worried about a bet from him with two 3's on the board. Which means, a re-raise from a limper would imply that they have a better hand than 333....like A3, K3, donk with AA, KK.
Lucking you ran into a donk limping AK.
Now, even if they had something like AT and thought you may have had a bad kicker, you could extract a lot more value from them without pushing all in. I'll fold with AK in villains spot.
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So my line is call? Check/call river? What if he pushes?
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I'd call any push because most times you are ahead I'd think.
If he calls your turn bet, bet the river for value.
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