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Old 06-30-2008, 10:49 PM     Post subject: Limped pot, middle set on monotone #1 (permalink)  
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Relative unknowns, meh?

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
9 players
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Stacks:
UTG ($22.15)
UTG 1 ($54.10)
MP1 ($25.00)
Hero ($49.75)
MP3 ($52.15)
CO ($91.40)
BTN ($49.25)
SB ($51.55)
BB ($85.10)
[MP1 posted $0.5]

Pre-flop: ($1.25, 9 players) Hero is MP2
2 folds, MP1 checks, Hero calls $0.50, 3 folds, SB calls $0.25, BB checks

Flop: ($2, 4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $2, MP1 calls $2, Hero raises to $7.75, SB folds, BB calls $5.75, MP1 goes all-in $24.50, $16.75 to Hero ($41.5)?
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Old 06-30-2008, 11:04 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Old 07-01-2008, 11:26 AM     Post subject: Re: Limped pot, middle set on monotone #3 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by Muzzard
Relative unknowns, meh?

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($22.15)
UTG 1 ($54.10)
MP1 ($25.00)
Hero ($49.75)
MP3 ($52.15)
CO ($91.40)
BTN ($49.25)
SB ($51.55)
BB ($85.10)
[MP1 posted $0.5]

Pre-flop: ($1.25, 9 players) Hero is MP2
2 folds, MP1 checks, Hero calls $0.50, 3 folds, SB calls $0.25, BB checks

Flop: ($2, 4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $2, MP1 calls $2, Hero raises to $7.75, SB folds, BB calls $5.75, MP1 goes all-in $24.50, $16.75 to Hero ($41.5)?
MP1 posts: so he's not that good!
BB: might have Ksx/set/flush
Let's first forget about BB (we'll examine it later).
Against only MP1: you'll need to call about $15 to a $44.5 pot. So that's about 3-1 where you need to have 25% of equity. Even if he has the flush you have at least 30% vs his flush.
Including BB: However, here we need to push to remove odds from BB (in the case he has Ksx). BB will not have AA often here. So in terms of sets he can only reasonably have 22 here. So it's either 22/flush/Kxs.
The odds to hit flush on the FLOP are around 118 - 1. So I put his range much more on 22 or Ksx on which our equity is huge! Even if BB has the flush we would be putting $41.5 to win $86 ($44.5 + $41.5), which is about 2.1 - 1 = about 31-2%
Conclusion: Without reads, I push over MP1 push.
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Old 07-01-2008, 12:09 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Hero rarely has the best hand here. Kind of hard to just flat the flop though. Opps.
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Old 07-02-2008, 07:44 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Hero rarely has the best hand here. Kind of hard to just flat the flop though. Opps.
I agree, but with the money in the pot and our 30% equity I don't think we can fold here.
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I shoved coz that's what i do with a set on a monotone, I get called and boat up. They both mucked a flush.
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