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ZwiFT
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01-14-2009, 11:22 AM
Post subject: The limp reraise
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Is this "always" aces? cant remember seeing one without aces. Should i feel bad stacking off KK to a limp reraise?
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Parasurama
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Deepstacked it's almost always AA at the limits I play. Shortstackers will do it with AK, TT+ in my experience.
Btw, I think I played with you for a little bit yesterday. I was 12-tabling so I didn't say hi but are you Zwifti on FT?
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badgers
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One of the biggest winners at Stars 1/2 FR limp/raises I think (from what I've caught), KK+, AK and also turns a lot of open limps into bluffs. Some short-stackers limp their entire stacking off range from EP to exploit players who iso too much without thinking. I think it's really opponent dependant, against some straightforward tagfish I guess you can consider feeling bad about stacking off where their stack off range is only AA. Agisnt these players I would just call the 3bet though and then we can build a more accurate range against him. If you're folding KK to a limp reraise you are super-exploitable if you're isolating at all wide and while that may not matter it's worth considering
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ZwiFT
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Originally Posted by Parasurama
Deepstacked it's almost always AA at the limits I play. Shortstackers will do it with AK, TT+ in my experience.
Btw, I think I played with you for a little bit yesterday. I was 12-tabling so I didn't say hi but are you Zwifti on FT?
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Yeah, no i cant chat much myself there as i also multitable there, and some other sites.
I agree with you both, I think there are certain places we can fold kk in a limpreraised pot, which is depending on the player, stacksize and position.
If you want to know why i raised the question its because i stacked of a guy who did this with AA. I was in the SB, he on the button, limped i raised with KK, he reraised, i called. Flop was 2 5 7something. I raised he reraised and i shipped the rest of my stack over to him.
Villain had a full stack and had just sat down, i had no info on him and he did it in LP which made me stack off
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Deanglow
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I see JJ+ and more often AK
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daven
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01-14-2009, 11:42 PM
Post subject: Re: The limp reraise
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Straight Flush
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Originally Posted by ZwiFT
Is this "always" aces?
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pretty much.
But with KK you can't fold to the re-raise - limits your options cos calling seems weak and 4-betting is getting close to being committed....
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Bad Beat
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Vs randoms I'd assume it's KK+ a whole lot. Vs a reg, well, not all regs do this ever so when you see it, note it, and check your database once in a while to see what sorts of hands he shows down/how he plays after a limpreraise.
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