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Old 03-12-2007, 09:51 PM     Post subject: Light 3-betting/river bluff line check #1 (permalink)  
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MP2 is 25/12 over ~200 hands, hence my light 3-bet. BB is 22/8 over ~1000 hands, seems decent but a little weak/tight like most regulars in this game. My image is laggro as usual, probably running ~26/15, 3-betting more than anyone else.

My thought process... occasional light 3-bet against a pfr'er with a wide range is standard for me... BB flat call was surprising from this player, I put him on JJ+, maybe AK... before flop comes I'm ready to give up this hand... flop comes down not bad for me, don't c-bet b/c I'm worried about getting c/r'ed by AA/KK and would love to see a 3rd heart... turn bet could mean QQ+ or AK sensing my weakness, figure I'll pay to hit yatzhee on the river... no yatzhee, but what looks obv like a blocking bet... I AM ALL IN.

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Stack sizes:
UTG: $274.30
UTG+1: $353.20
MP1: $200
MP2: $213.55
MP3: $214.95
Hero: $188
Button: $173
SB: $378.30
BB: $200

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is CO with 6 K
3 folds, MP2 raises to $7, MP3 folds, Hero raises to $21, 2 folds, BB calls, MP2 folds.

Flop: 4 J 5 ($50, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: J ($50, 2 players)
BB bets $30, Hero calls.

River: T ($110, 2 players)
BB bets $35, Hero raises all-in $137
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Old 03-13-2007, 09:22 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 bet the flop, at least we rep something there and bet/3bet might not be a horrible line considering we figure to have a fd and an over so like 12 outs...
As played hmmmm, looks a bit spewy although opps river bet does look block-like.
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Old 03-13-2007, 10:17 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I can see your logic here, but what are you repping?

From the betting, I put BB on 99, here more than I put him on missed AK. He can't believe that you have the J, nor that you'd have played AA/KK/QQ in this way. If that's the case, he calls your bet.
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Old 03-13-2007, 11:07 PM #4 (permalink)  
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I can see your logic here, but what are you repping?
Great question. TT?
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Old 03-13-2007, 11:14 PM #5 (permalink)  
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I can see your logic here, but what are you repping?
Great question. TT?
Does TT check behind on the flop? Does TT just call the turn?

Why would TT not

1 - want an indication of where he stands
2 - want to avoid giving away potential overcards?
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Old 03-14-2007, 10:25 PM #6 (permalink)  
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i don't think he can put you on TT here. it's just such a long shot. i might still fold against your hand in this position though just because i wouldn't have enough time to think through it so deeply (obviously depends what hand i have though).

it could be JJ for you or your opponent but unlikely.
most likely is probably QQ. Is he the sort of player that will just call with AA or KK pf? It's not a bad play. Checking the flop with QQ-AA is also a good idea by your opponent, since it quite likely you cbet after your pf 3bet.
does he honestly think he can push you off a better hand with AK on the river with his blocking type bet? I don't think so. So most likely he has QQ IMO.

Does he fold QQ to your river raise? It's a tough call. The only thing he can beat is a bluff - although that isn't so unlikely if he has a good enough read on you and if he can think through the hand quick enough
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Old 03-16-2007, 05:56 PM #7 (permalink)  
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this couldnt look anymore like a bluff
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Old 03-16-2007, 08:20 PM #8 (permalink)  
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 id play TT like this at times, but then i get called down horribly light and cant stand to bet this flop and get pushed out by AK or even Jx that im likely to be called by preflop.
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