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07-25-2008, 07:54 PM
Post subject: Lifetime stats at 50/100nl
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These are my lifetime stats at 50 and 100nl. I know I didn't crush 50nl, but I beat it pretty good, but 100nl just gives me trouble. I've been trying to figure out what the hell I can do at 100nl to get positive. My stats for both are basically the same and thats obviously not working. Am I too tight pre? I'd like to play somewhere around 14/12 or so, but always end up at around the same 10%pfr. Steal button more? Whats a good steal success%, ie, as long as success is over 50% is it worth it? I've been digging through HEM lately trying different filters to see where I can improve. Does anyone using HEM have any suggestions for really good filters/reports to use? Thanks for any advice!
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lollllllllll im telling you guys if your going to play this tight you need to win more fucking pots aka get your wwsf up
you need atleast 40% mine is like 44% im telling you this is a hudge leak. im telling you the same shit that i told daven.so you might want to look in his thread.
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Let's see some position stats for just 100nl before I go into paragraphs on this one.
Aggression factors by street would also be useful.
For what it's worth, your adjusted EV would put you at like +1.3 ptbb/100 or +2.6 bb/100 at 100nl.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
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Rule # 1: don't ask questions
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I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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Originally Posted by reDZill4
lollllllllll im telling you guys if your going to play this tight you need to win more fucking pots aka get your wwsf up
you need atleast 40% mine is like 44% im telling you this is a hudge leak. im telling you the same shit that i told daven.so you might want to look in his thread.
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this is really interesting, i still run like 35%wwsf. This is directly related to my W$WSD being around 60%. Both values are outside what is recommended (40%wwsf, 53%w$wsd), but i think i understand what's going on at least.
anyway, if you're going to have a low wwsf, then win more showdowns!
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allabout
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Thanks, heres some more stats. 1st is my positional stats for 100nl and second is the rest of my main stats, including agg factor. Thanks a ton.
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The drop in VP$IP and PFR from the button to the cutoff is a bit telling of the lack of stealing you do. One thing I'd seriously work on is attacking the blinds of tight players. I have a thread somewhere in the FR forum that details some of the math behind this using blind stats that players had recently posted. It's very often going to be the case that open-raising from the button with any two cards is going to be profitable just from the money you get when they both fold, so check that out.
Actually I just went and found that thread I was talking about, it's here http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...01-t66573.html
This also implies that you might want to work on your blinds a bit, 3-betting people who steal a lot with a wider range, etc.
Overall your stats are telling me that you're playing a winning game, but have plenty of room for improvement, which is a good thing. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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Thanks for the replies fellas, I do really appreciate it. Sometimes I just need a reminder to stop playing so nitty. I had loosened up quite a bit believe it or not at $50nl for the last 50k hands or so and was doing really well, so I need to get back into that mode. Thanks for the link too spoon, I had read that but it gets lost. Too bad there wasn't some sort of "full ring digest" or something where really good posts like that could all be collected.
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Originally Posted by allabout
Thanks for the replies fellas, I do really appreciate it. Sometimes I just need a reminder to stop playing so nitty. I had loosened up quite a bit believe it or not at $50nl for the last 50k hands or so and was doing really well, so I need to get back into that mode. Thanks for the link too spoon, I had read that but it gets lost. Too bad there wasn't some sort of "full ring digest" or something where really good posts like that could all be collected. 
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it has nothing to do with playing nitty or not. it has everything to do with devleoping the right skillset for what style you play. i am probably one of the tighter players preflop here but am hopefully one of the more sucessful 200nl ring palyers right now. its just about making sure the style taht u have the right skills for your style.
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Originally Posted by allabout
Thanks for the replies fellas, I do really appreciate it. Sometimes I just need a reminder to stop playing so nitty. I had loosened up quite a bit believe it or not at $50nl for the last 50k hands or so and was doing really well, so I need to get back into that mode. Thanks for the link too spoon, I had read that but it gets lost. Too bad there wasn't some sort of "full ring digest" or something where really good posts like that could all be collected. 
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it has nothing to do with playing nitty or not. it has everything to do with devleoping the right skillset for what style you play. i am probably one of the tighter players preflop here but am hopefully one of the more sucessful 200nl ring palyers right now. its just about making sure the style taht u have the right skills for your style.
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I basically 100% disagree with this because I think it's a very narrow-minded way of viewing the learning process. While different players of a similar level of play will have stylistic differences, they aren't created artificially like what you suggest but are naturally brought out by differences in personalities and temperament. Two very strong players might be stylistically different, but they are strong players because they play good poker, not because they have a narrow skill-set based upon a pre-determined "style" they want to play.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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Originally Posted by allabout
Thanks for the replies fellas, I do really appreciate it. Sometimes I just need a reminder to stop playing so nitty. I had loosened up quite a bit believe it or not at $50nl for the last 50k hands or so and was doing really well, so I need to get back into that mode. Thanks for the link too spoon, I had read that but it gets lost. Too bad there wasn't some sort of "full ring digest" or something where really good posts like that could all be collected. 
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it has nothing to do with playing nitty or not. it has everything to do with devleoping the right skillset for what style you play. i am probably one of the tighter players preflop here but am hopefully one of the more sucessful 200nl ring palyers right now. its just about making sure the style taht u have the right skills for your style.
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I basically 100% disagree with this because I think it's a very narrow-minded way of viewing the learning process. While different players of a similar level of play will have stylistic differences, they aren't created artificially like what you suggest but are naturally brought out by differences in personalities and temperament. Two very strong players might be stylistically different, but they are strong players because they play good poker, not because they have a narrow skill-set based upon a pre-determined "style" they want to play.
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