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Borax
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04-05-2006, 09:11 PM
Post subject: Lay down a full house?
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NL 0.25/0.5$ 10 player Ring
Hero limps with 5 others from MP with  :Js:
Flop
  
BB checks
UTG+1 bets 1.5
Hero calls 1.5
SB calls 1.5
BB calls 1.5
rest folds
Pot is 9.5$
Turn
BB goes all in for 14 $
UTG+1 calls 14$ (65$ left)
Hero  (74$ left)
I would call BB here, but should I fear UTG+1? Only a K beats me since QQ or AA would most likely have raised PRF.
Read BB = fishy but likes to push the nuts as well
Read UTG+1 = pretty tight = pocket pair or a K
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joshuadzl
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I'm folding here. One of them probably has the king, why are you not pumping this preflop?
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Borax
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Originally Posted by joshuadzl
I'm folding here. One of them probably has the king, why are you not pumping this preflop?
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I do not raise JJ every time  This was one of my JJ limping hands.
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'Well, obviously, this is not meant to be taken literally. It refers to any manufacturers of dairy products.'
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johnny_fish
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Why so passive?
As played, folding is fine here. UTG+1 might have Kx as well as 88-TT, probably Kx. You know almost nothing because of your passive play.
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Fnord
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Can't over-call here.
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Renton
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raising JJ preflop isn't 100 percent the best move here.
I rarely raise JJ oop.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by Renton
raising JJ preflop isn't 100 percent the best move here.
I rarely raise JJ oop.
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I raise 22 oop, so meh...
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sejje
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I fold that flop.
If I limp JJ, it's for a set.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by sejje
If I limp JJ, it's for a set.
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Weaksauce.
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mrhappy333
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I had a similar situation, but AAJ came out, I had raised the pot but two people called me with A rag. Now I flopped a nice full house, then I raised all in and the two other callers called me again. we turn our card over I had the full house, they had trip Aces, then one of them got their Rag on the river and had the better full house. soooooooooo......It's just one of those poker things..
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joshuadzl
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Originally Posted by Renton
raising JJ preflop isn't 100 percent the best move here.
I rarely raise JJ oop.
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Interesting, why? Are you only betting Aces and Kings oop?
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Renton
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Originally Posted by joshuadzl
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Originally Posted by Renton
raising JJ preflop isn't 100 percent the best move here.
I rarely raise JJ oop.
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Interesting, why? Are you only betting Aces and Kings oop? |
AA, KK, QQ, AK, AQ, and mix-up with other hands like JTs, 88-JJ etc..
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DaNutsInYoEye
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Fnord
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Originally Posted by sejje
If I limp JJ, it's for a set.
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Weaksauce. |
With a side of pansy and a nice cold glass of wimp.
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TheXianti: (Triptanes) why are you not a thinking person?
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DonCoryon
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Pot= $37.5
Call = $14
Pot Odds=2.5/1
I'm going to have to go against the grain here. I think it's a rare time where I am going to over call. I think in this situation the BB could have a K or one of the other 11 pocket pairs, and Ace or on a complete bluff. UTG+1 at the minimum has a pocket pair, or the two. I think your Jacks will be good here about 50% of the time. I don't think I would reopen the betting but I would call.
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Borax
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Originally Posted by DonCoryon
Pot= $37.5
Call = $14
Pot Odds=2.5/1
I'm going to have to go against the grain here. I think it's a rare time where I am going to over call. I think in this situation the BB could have a K or one of the other 11 pocket pairs, and Ace or on a complete bluff. UTG+1 at the minimum has a pocket pair, or the two. I think your Jacks will be good here about 50% of the time. I don't think I would reopen the betting but I would call.
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Interesting and I aggree. I couldn't decide at the thime and folded after 29 sec of thinking. BB showed 99 and UTG+1 showed TT. After rethinking the hand and the odds like you did, I am pretty sure that a call could be defended here.
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'Well, obviously, this is not meant to be taken literally. It refers to any manufacturers of dairy products.'
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johnny_fish
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Villain is probably afraid of the Kx/higher pair too if he doesn't have it himself. So how about call turn and fold to river push? (If he checks, make a value bet) Easy way to distinguish PP from Kx right?
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