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scgolfer
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09-23-2004, 10:17 PM
Post subject: Last night in Vegas. Tough decision!
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Im playing $300 max buyin ($2 and $5 blinds) I just get moved into the main table at the Mirage from a must move table, I have about $250.
Fifth hand I'm in mid-position and get dealt QQ. UTG($200) raises to $15, it gets to me and I raise it to $45, Button($400ish) calls and SB(700ish) calls, UTG calls. ($185 pot). The flop comes down 9h 7s 3d. UTG checks I bet $100. Button folds. SB raises to $200. UTG folds. What Do I do?? Essentially All in or fold? Total Pot ($485) I thought for a long time? No read on SB except for "She" had a lot of chips, since I was new to table.
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Holy crap I cant play against Yoda!!
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Fnord
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Call, even if the SB has 2 pair I think you're tied to the pot. I think you *had* to push on the flop given the pot size vs your stack.
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Humphrind
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I'm sure I spent half as much time on that "Submit Vote" button as you spent deciding.
With that pot, and you already having $150 in I find it hard to lay down an overpair to a rag flop. But such a big bet tells me she has a big hand as well. Hmmmmm.
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I don't know what they have to say
It makes no difference anyway.
Whatever it is...
I'm against it.
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Fnord
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It's not a big bet, it's a minimum raise.
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Humphrind
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Originally Posted by Fnord
It's not a big bet, it's a minimum raise.
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Yup, you're right. It's a big bet because $100 is a lot of money (even though golfer was the one who started by pushing it out in the first place) And it is big because it takes almost golfers entire stack.
Therefore, even a minimum raise is a big bet.
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I don't know what they have to say
It makes no difference anyway.
Whatever it is...
I'm against it.
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mike4066
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sounds to me like your moving all-in..
your still up from the other other day.
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allLiving
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All in Easily.
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michael1123
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It really depends on the players. But from my experience, live games are much looser than online games of the same level. I'd probably go all in here, even though there's a good chance you may be beat.
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allLiving
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Originally Posted by michael1123
It really depends on the players. But from my experience, live games are much looser than online games of the same level. I'd probably go all in here, even though there's a good chance you may be beat.
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I don't think there's a good chance he is beat here... I'd put my chips in the center.
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Xianti
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That would be a fairly easy call for me.
michael1123 is right. From my experience as well, live ring games at these stakes are not only loose, but players are also very aggressive with their pre-flop bets (6x or even 8x BB raises pre-flop without even a pocket pair seems common).
On the flop, with $185 in the pot, your bet of only about half the pot doesn't represent an overpair to me. The minimum raise to $200 by SB is about what I would've bet in the first place, and with so much in the pot at that point, SB's minimum raise smells of TPTK. I wouldn't be too worried about a set. Probably only the KK or AA to worry about, but it's still an easy call at this point, with so much invested already.
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Les_Worm
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I call.
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scgolfer
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Well Im glad 16 others agreed with my play, I called. She slow played AA and I lose.  Oh well I said "Nice hand ma'am." I was wondering how she got so many chips in front of her?? Now I know.
I got up and left at this point. I left Vegas up a bunch even after paying for all my incidentals, and it was even nicer since the golf club paid fo rthe trip. 8-) 8-)
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Holy crap I cant play against Yoda!!
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09-24-2004, 03:41 AM
Post subject: Re: Last night in Vegas. Tough decision!
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