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Old 07-08-2008, 08:14 AM     Post subject: KT steal/isolate, top pair K kicker vs flop bet #1 (permalink)  
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 Pre-flop is standard - should it be?
Flop, villain is unlikely to 3-bet without a monster, so cib is a preferred line.
Turn, well, he called, checking behind ok - or should I bet? Are hands I beat calling a bet here very often? is it even a likely hand?
River, that bet is so weak - but so is my hand, and I doubt villain is calling with worse. Call or raise for thin value?

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Hero ($97)
SB ($19.50)
BB ($35.20)
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Preflop: Hero is Button with K, T.
UTG calls $1, 4 folds, Hero raises to $4.5, SB calls $4, 1 fold, UTG calls $3.50.

Flop: ($14.50) T, 3, 8 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $6, Hero raises to $12, SB folds, UTG calls $6.

Turn: ($38.50) 7 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: ($38.50) 4 (2 players)
UTG bets $11, Hero calls $11.

Final Pot: $60.50
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Old 07-08-2008, 10:11 AM #2 (permalink)  
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I actually like your flop line because he bet so little and you've bought yourself a free river for only $6 where he would likely have bet more on the turn.

I think a flop call is ok though and that would be my standard. Rest of hand is fine.
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Old 07-08-2008, 03:40 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I think the call on the end is poor. Villan could have AT, J9's giving him the striaght on the turn. Or Ax's of diamonds. I think the $11 call on the river is a donation.
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I think the call on the end is poor. Villan could have AT, J9's giving him the striaght on the turn. Or Ax's of diamonds. I think the $11 call on the river is a donation.
$11 to win $50 against villain after villain's weak flop bet and weak turn play? I'm like a kid trying to win free radio concert tickets, calling all day long.
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Old 07-08-2008, 08:49 PM #5 (permalink)  
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I think the call on the end is poor. Villan could have AT, J9's giving him the striaght on the turn. Or Ax's of diamonds. I think the $11 call on the river is a donation.
I'm almost never folding to such a small bet here - villain showed A2o for ace high.
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Old 07-09-2008, 05:32 PM #6 (permalink)  
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so if you're getting 5-1 on the river you should probably call it?
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Old 07-09-2008, 05:37 PM #7 (permalink)  
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so if you're getting 5-1 on the river you should probably call it?
With top pair? Any day of the week.

I dunno if I like the flop min-raise here. What is its purpose? Value out of a straight draw/worse ten? To "see where you're at?"

I probably call & re-evaluate given that we've got position.

Against a very loose opponent I guess I could see the value here. A2o, eh? I guess he WAS pretty damn loose.
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Old 07-10-2008, 02:45 AM #8 (permalink)  
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I like your line too. That flop raise seems like a great response to the undersize bet.
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