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eugmac

04-05-2007, 04:18 PM Post subject: KQs hits gutshot draw. call this flop?

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I raised KQs in LP, UTG and MP calls. UTG doesn't seem to mind stacking off with two pairs.

Flop comes A T x, two-tone.

UTG leads for about half the pot, MP flat calls. Both players are pretty much full stacked.

Do I have implied odds to call here?

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biondino

04-05-2007, 05:02 PM

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I don't think so. You're getting 4:1 but you need 10.5:1 to have correct pot odds; you're probably up against at least one ace (and MP's call is likely to be weak rather than slowplay), so even if you do hit it'll probably be hard to get them to stack off. If you hit a pair, of course, you're still behind even A2 so you can't take that into account.

SteveO

04-05-2007, 05:04 PM

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I would say generally no. Gutshot by itself is garbage. I prefer to chase with at least a pair and a gutshot or a flush draw and the gutshot.

Did you have a chance at backdoor flush?

Also, if they are donking you don't have the option of trying to buy the pot from them on the turn or river and you are v. 2 folks rather than HU.

You raised PF and there are two opponents. At least one of them has you beat and your chance to improve is slim. There's also a good chance they are holding your outs and at best you split even if you hit the gutshot.

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