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Old 03-04-2005, 09:47 AM     Post subject: KQs? #1 (permalink)  
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This was the first of a few hands where I picked up KQs. Any comments would be gratefully accepted.....

EXAMPLE 1

Seat 1: ChadMD ($4,885 in chips)
Seat 2: clmsntgrglf ($1,265 in chips)
Seat 3: gptukx ($3,610 in chips)
Seat 6: jascar2 ($1,000 in chips)
Seat 8: staresy [QS,KS] ($1,520 in chips)
Seat 10: STVDMN69 ($2,720 in chips)

ANTES/BLINDS
jascar2 posts blind ($25), staresy posts blind ($50).

PRE-FLOP
STVDMN69 bets $100, ChadMD folds, clmsntgrglf folds, gptukx folds, jascar2 folds, staresy calls $50.

FLOP [board cards 6S,QH,KH ]
staresy checks, STVDMN69 bets $100, staresy calls $100.

TURN [board cards 6S,QH,KH,9S ]
staresy checks, STVDMN69 bets $100, staresy bets $450, STVDMN69 bets $700, staresy bets $870 and is all-in, STVDMN69 calls $520.

RIVER [board cards 6S,QH,KH,9S,2S ]

SHOWDOWN
staresy shows [ QS,KS ]
STVDMN69 shows [ 9H,9C ]
staresy wins $3,065.


this one I won (I also went on to win the table), but I can't help think I was lucky, although I didn't put him on the hand he showed, I had him on KJ, maybe KT (but unlikely given the way he played). I thought AK would have brought about a stronger raise from 1st position. I briefly consider AA that wanted some, but not much action, but dismissed this


EXAMPLE 2

Seat 2: Besheezy ($1,130 in chips)
Seat 3: brads298 ($1,285 in chips)
Seat 4: dallasburnin ($600 in chips)
Seat 5: JuneJ ($2,125 in chips)
Seat 6: staresy [KH,QH] ($1,640 in chips)
Seat 7: BradIndy ($1,230 in chips)
Seat 8: nhkiyak ($2,780 in chips)
Seat 9: drickDaSliCk ($1,410 in chips)
Seat 10: gingers ($2,800 in chips)

ANTES/BLINDS
dallasburnin posts blind ($15), JuneJ posts blind ($30).

PRE-FLOP
staresy bets $60, BradIndy calls $60, nhkiyak folds, drickDaSliCk folds, gingers calls $60, Besheezy folds, brads298 bets $200, dallasburnin folds, JuneJ folds, staresy folds, BradIndy bets $500, gingers folds, brads298 bets $1,085 and is all-in, BradIndy calls $670 and is all-in.

FLOP [board cards 6H,3S,KS ]

TURN [board cards 6H,3S,KS,8H ]

RIVER [board cards 6H,3S,KS,8H,KC ]

SHOWDOWN
brads298 shows [ 10S,10H ]
BradIndy shows [ QD,AD ]
brads298 wins $55, brads298 wins $2,625.


I am sure this was a good laydown, (I did go on to win this table as well!, so no biggie)

EXAMPLE 3

Seat 2: Besheezy ($1,100 in chips)
Seat 3: brads298 ($2,650 in chips)
Seat 4: dallasburnin ($585 in chips)
Seat 5: JuneJ ($1,815 in chips)
Seat 6: staresy [QD,KD] ($1,535 in chips)
Seat 8: nhkiyak ($2,770 in chips)
Seat 9: drickDaSliCk ($1,605 in chips)
Seat 10: gingers ($2,940 in chips)

ANTES/BLINDS
drickDaSliCk posts blind ($25), gingers posts blind ($50).

PRE-FLOP
Besheezy calls $50, brads298 folds, dallasburnin folds, JuneJ calls $50, staresy calls $50, nhkiyak calls $50, drickDaSliCk bets $400, gingers folds, Besheezy folds, JuneJ calls $375, staresy folds, nhkiyak calls $375.

FLOP [board cards 9C,10H,QS ]
drickDaSliCk bets $1,100, JuneJ folds, nhkiyak calls $1,100.

TURN [board cards 9C,10H,QS,JC ]
drickDaSliCk bets $80 and is all-in, nhkiyak calls $80.

RIVER [board cards 9C,10H,QS,JC,7S ]

SHOWDOWN
drickDaSliCk shows [ QC,AS ]
nhkiyak shows [ KC,4C ]
nhkiyak wins $3,785.

I am also sure this was a good laydown. However, these two are just examples of how I am unsure about KQs
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Old 03-04-2005, 10:07 AM #2 (permalink)  
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All of these plays were fine. KQs is a VERY overrated hand and is not to be overplayed. You should fold it to big bets preflop and you did, cool.

As for hand one, it's fine to slowplay there in my opinion but you could also bet halff pot there, it's kind of a 'match your style' play, both plays are right. And you couldn't put him on that 99 by the turn (or you would've done very well to! But I liked all these plays, it's good to see you not overplaying KQs.
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Old 03-04-2005, 10:18 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Yeah, the latest in fish fashion these days is playing KQ like AA.
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For the first one I prefer betting your top two pair on the flop as opposed to checking it and getting in danger of giving a free card.

2nd one looks great

3rd one.... I might consider putting in a small raise preflop (3x maybe?) to narrow the field a little and see where you stand if you get reraised. Although your fold was right, and a pretty straightforward decision in my mind.
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cheers to all 3 of u

yeah, my logic at the time was that, having PFR'd I wanted to give him a chance to bet again. I kind of thought that the 100 bet was a little weak and I thought I could milk him for some more on the turn.

For the other 2, I guess I just wanted some reassurance that the laydown was right and that all I could do was shrug my shoulders at the outcomes
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Ex. 1, I like betting the flop.

Ex. 2 & 3 were definitely good laydowns. Hell, just look at the hands you were against preflop - in both cases someone had AQ. That dominates KQ and you have to get a lucky board for KQ to win against it. Sucks that such a lucky board came when you were raised out of the hand though...
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