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Old 09-24-2005, 11:55 PM     Post subject: KKK vs 3 spades flop?? #1 (permalink)  

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I had KK.. I raised $1.50 ish he raised to 3... 1 guy called.

I called.

Flop is K 2 low cards and all 3 are spades......

He raises $5..
I raise them both all in (i had $100+ they had 20 each)

Was I WRONG??

They both had flush!!!!

I put the raiser to 3 on AK (which was correct) .. and I put both of them on a draw at best... but they both hit it with a 4th spade on turn.

Should I have folded right away, Called $5 instead of raising, or?
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Old 09-25-2005, 07:26 AM     Post subject: Re: KKK vs 3 spades flop?? #2 (permalink)  
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I had KK.. I raised $1.50 ish he raised to 3... 1 guy called.

I called.
Definitely needed to reraise strong here.

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They both had flush!!!!
Actually, they both had flush draws on the flop.

Realistically, would you fold top set on a 3flush flop board? I wouldn't because if you assume your opps are on a draw, you have more outs on the turn.

You played it right.
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Old 09-25-2005, 07:58 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Good decision, since the guy with the better flush draw had 32% to get his flush

to make a full house after or before he makes his flush = 20%

So his chance of winning was 25% or so
You're 75% to win the hand!


Now against a flopped flush the chance of making a full house is 7 outs on the turn (15%) and 10 outs by the river (19%) for a total of 34%

With so much money in the pot you can't fold even if one flopped the flush!

As for PF play, he MIN raised you. That's almost no raise. Raise the pot and see what he does. Well, actually you have to call even if he pushes because his stack is so pathetic. You should make it something like 9 dollars to go if my math is correct. He has, what, 10 dollars left in his stack? You have to be at least 80% sure he has aces to fold. So definitely reraise. Queens and AK definitely call a reraise because it was a reraise of a min-raise.
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Old 09-26-2005, 05:41 PM     Post subject: mm #4 (permalink)  
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u can call preflop, but only for one reason, to make sure no ace hits the flop, when thats the case, u just push it in.
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Old 09-26-2005, 08:13 PM #5 (permalink)  
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You can't respect a stack that tall in comparison to your stack when you flop trip kings. Put it all in every time.
It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
 
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