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gametight
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03-13-2008, 09:04 PM
Post subject: KK threeway pot
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Flush
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Both villains are calling stations. Is this ok or should I be getting suspicious at some point??
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com
SB ($100)
BB ($63.75)
Hero ($100)
UTG+1 ($36.95)
MP1 ($31.80)
MP2 ($63.90)
MP3 ($93.50)
CO ($174.40)
Button ($121.25)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[ ], K[ ].
Hero raises to $4, 3 folds, MP3 calls $4, 1 fold, Button calls $4, 2 folds.
Flop: ($13.50) 5[], J[ ], 8[] (3 players)
Hero bets $9.5, MP3 calls $9.50, Button calls $9.50.
Turn: ($42) 6[] (3 players)
Hero bets $34, MP3 calls $34, Button calls $34.
River: ($144) 3[] (3 players)
Hero bets $52.5 (All-In), MP3 calls $46 (All-In), Button calls $52.50.
Final Pot: $295
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Warpe
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If we want to be able to find a fold we need to think about our pot-to-stack ratio:
-3-handed I slow down on the turn
-HU I slow down on the river (depending)
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Fnord
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Bet more money on the flop. I stack off here against loose/passives every time and twice on Saturday (mmmm.... Saturday...)
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pokerfan
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4-of-a-Kind
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hmm, if their stats are pretty bad, i probably shove on the turn, no kidding. 
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Warpe
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Bet more money on the flop.
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agree
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Originally Posted by Fnord
I stack off here against loose/passives every time and twice on Saturday
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your gamboool is showing
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pokerfan
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4-of-a-Kind
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this is the good spot to triple up our stack against two stations, IMO. Dont play like a scared girl when we have enough BR to take the beat. 
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Originally Posted by Warpe
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Bet more money on the flop.
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agree
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Originally Posted by Fnord
I stack off here against loose/passives every time and twice on Saturday
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your gamboool is showing |
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Warpe
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hey, I've got as much gambool in me as the next guy but my hand reading senses are tingling. If hero's good here I'll be very surprised.
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pokerfan
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i figured that hero got beat on the river 
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Originally Posted by Warpe
hey, I've got as much gambool in me as the next guy but my hand reading senses are tingling. If hero's good here I'll be very surprised.
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pgil
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Full House
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against two calling stations you basically have to hope you're good and go for. Unfortunately (or fortunately) the turn bet being called in 2 places pretty well commits us and everyone else to any sort of made hand. You lose too much value from Jx and QQ type of hands by checking here against these guys.
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pokerfan
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4-of-a-Kind
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psb on the flop and following up with a shove might be the best line.
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pgil
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Full House
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why would you overbet shove the turn? 80 something into 50 something against calling stations. Seems like the best line is pretty well his line. Maybe slightly more on flop, but that is about it. The entire hand pretty well plays itself. too much to fold, opps are too bad as well.
People start to play weird when that much money gets put into the pot, so I wouldn't be surprised if hero is still good most of the time on the river. at least often enough to be +EV long term.
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