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martindcx1e
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11-08-2006, 04:40 AM
Post subject: KK HU vs. Smooth Caller - Line Check
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4-of-a-Kind
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100NL - Full Ring
No Reads
Hero is UTG ($100) with  
Villain is CO ($107)
Pre-Flop
Hero raises to $4
Villain calls $4
Flop (2 Players, Pot = $9.50)
  
Hero bets $7
Villain calls $7
Turn (2 Players, Pot = $23.50)
Hero bets $10 (Not sure what happened. I meant to bet $14. Guess I screwed it up)
Villain calls $10
River (2 Players, Pot = $43.50)
Hero checks
Villain bets $20
Hero calls $20
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zook
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Besides the turn bet size, I think it's fine.
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handsomestan
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I think you're betting it too weak the whole way.
I'd make it 5 or even 6 preflop, and 10+ on the flop. Make him pay to see more cards.
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martindcx1e
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Originally Posted by handsomestan
I think you're betting it too weak the whole way.
I'd make it 5 or even 6 preflop, and 10+ on the flop. Make him pay to see more cards.
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trust me. opening for 4bb's is not a problem. there's also no reason at all to overbet the flop.
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handsomestan
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Right... so you've asked for a line check but you're not interested in any advice from more experienced players.
Whatever.
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gametight
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Everything looks fine except for the turn bet for sure. What did he show?
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martindcx1e
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Originally Posted by handsomestan
Right... so you've asked for a line check but you're not interested in any advice from more experienced players.
Whatever.
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Ok thanks for your advice. I appreciate it. Why don't we discuss it then? Why do you open for more than $4 preflop? Why do you overbet the flop?
Also you have no way of knowing how "experienced" we are in relation to each other.
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Anosmic
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Originally Posted by handsomestan
I think you're betting it too weak the whole way.
I'd make it 5 or even 6 preflop, and 10+ on the flop. Make him pay to see more cards.
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Pffft.
5-6 preflop and 10+ flop would be a terrible line. Not saying you can't play it, but OPs line is much more credible.
OP: Not sure why you checked the river? Can you be sure he won't be checking behind?
There's a very strong likelihood that he's either got nothing but high cards and is taking a shot at the pot, or perhaps he's got a PP and thinks you've missed.
I think I'd rather take the risk of being raised here than take the risk of him checking behind when he looks like he wants to be the sherrif?
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Jimmy Mac
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Seems more likely that the villain has some showdown value, rather than a busted draw (that he might bluff the river with). So I like a bet/fold there rather than a check/call.
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martindcx1e
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Originally Posted by Anosmic
OP: Not sure why you checked the river? Can you be sure he won't be checking behind?
There's a very strong likelihood that he's either got nothing but high cards and is taking a shot at the pot, or perhaps he's got a PP and thinks you've missed.
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well if he has missed overs he's not calling a river bet. i'm not sure how often a pp calls a 3rd barrel.
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AHiltz
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by handsomestan
I think you're betting it too weak the whole way.
I'd make it 5 or even 6 preflop, and 10+ on the flop. Make him pay to see more cards.
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If you know villian is a calling station and likes to see flops no matter the cost then sure, make it $5 or $6 preflop. Otherwise you're going to kill most action, and you want some kind of action from your monsters.
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