Poker Forum

Over 1,247,000 Posts!

REGISTER
Subscribe to FTR web feed
Already Registered?      Username:    Password:   Remember      Forgot Password

Poker Forum

  > 

Full Ring NL Hold'em

  > 

KK - horrible flop and turn. Good fold?

  
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
renegaderob1
Old 10-22-2005, 11:06 AM     Post subject: KK - horrible flop and turn. Good fold? #1 (permalink)  
Flush

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Australia
Posts: 311
renegaderob1
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG ($53)
Hero ($49.50)
CO ($9)
Button ($4.75)
SB ($159.80)
BB ($14.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K, K.
UTG raises to $1, Hero raises to $3.5, 2 folds, SB calls $3.25, 1 fold, UTG calls $2.50.

Flop: ($11) 8, 6, 9 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $9, SB folds, UTG raises to $18, Hero calls $9.

Turn: ($47) A (2 players)
UTG bets $31.5 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $78.50

Ok; my reason for folding on the turn rather than the flop; I wanted to see the turn (heart?) and see what his action is. To me this felt like a flopped set rather than the flush (9s?)... thoughts?

Very tough hand to laydown, but it's not invincible and I felt I was behind with only about 10 outs. Should I have folded on the flop? Comments on my play please
Roll Rebuilding (for the second time). Current; $1600 from $300 (previous, $2300 from $15)
 
Reply With Quote

Play for FREE and practice your game at...

Join the FTR Poker Forum to disable these banners and start posting!
r8ed
Old 10-22-2005, 04:43 PM #2 (permalink)  
4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,524
r8ed
Easy turn fold. I doubt you are ahead at this point. The reraise on the flop...well, that's tough since he called that raise preflop. Of course you know you really should have layed it down on the flop. Unless you know this player to make such a bluff, it's not worth proceeding unfortunately.
Reply With Quote
r8ed
Old 10-23-2005, 05:59 AM #3 (permalink)  
4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,524
r8ed
Addendum. The reason I said fold the flop is I've been getting killed in those situations lately. But even when I relook at it now, seeing the turn is very very tempting. I think the flop call is OK.
Reply With Quote
renegaderob1
Old 10-23-2005, 06:51 AM #4 (permalink)  
Flush

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Australia
Posts: 311
renegaderob1
Lol, it was very tempting...
Roll Rebuilding (for the second time). Current; $1600 from $300 (previous, $2300 from $15)
 
Reply With Quote
nick87
Old 10-27-2005, 07:46 PM #5 (permalink)  

Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 53
nick87
Send a message via AIM to nick87
okokokok, I'm sorry, I may be spewing out naive advice but

I would have reraised all-in after he raised you, Especially if I had a large bankroll. That K of hearts will net you a flush some of the time if he does have the set and decides to call. (which would be a bad call of course)

The thing is, he raised the min before the flop under the gun (like he wanted to get some money in) then called your reraise. after the flop, he check raised you. I, in this situation would probably lose all of my money, because it looks like he may have AA with an A of hearts. I don't know he would push that hard with the nut flush of the flop, so He probably has a drawing hand, and possibly already had you beat before the flop. Good laydown I say.
Reply With Quote
lowBoy
Old 10-27-2005, 11:23 PM #6 (permalink)  
Flush

Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 513
lowBoy
AhAx isn't pushing that turn IMO.

I think he's on a set and c/r-ed you for value, or he's sitting on Ah9x
Reply With Quote
Fnord
Old 10-27-2005, 11:39 PM #7 (permalink)  
Fnord's Avatar
Moderator

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: I'll Do You Like A Truck
Posts: 19,334
Fnord is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via MSN to Fnord
I'd just get it all in on the flop. It's a big pot and I'm not really sure where you're at, but I think you're good here a lot. Partiuclarly given that it's 6 max.

Otherwise, it's a big guessing game.

JJ?
AhX?
Some sort of connector?
Air?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y
 
Reply With Quote
TalentedTom
Old 10-28-2005, 02:36 AM #8 (permalink)  
TalentedTom's Avatar
Flush

Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Toronto
Posts: 289
TalentedTom
Send a message via MSN to TalentedTom
He must have put you on the ace of hearts, a hand like AQ or AK, and he thought you hit your ace and would call his bet. I personally feel he has trips, and the A saved you a lot of money.
Tom.S
 
Reply With Quote
renegaderob1
Old 10-28-2005, 03:13 AM #9 (permalink)  
Flush

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Australia
Posts: 311
renegaderob1
Fair point Tom. What if say that A hadn't come out and a 2:spades: came out instead and he still came out firing with an AI bet? Would we then still assume he has the trips and is worried about the flush? How often am I ahead here?
Roll Rebuilding (for the second time). Current; $1600 from $300 (previous, $2300 from $15)
 
Reply With Quote
Reply
Latest Poker News
KoRnholio Old 05-26-2012, 03:08 PM    Australia Legalized Online Poker coming up in next 6 to 12 Months
According to an email sent out by Mark Bryan, a gaming analyst at Merrill Lynch, the Australian government plans to legalize online poker sometime in the next six to 12 months. This move will coincide ...

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »
Thread Tools
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT. The time now is 07:26 PM.

Contact Us - Archive - Top

FTR Testimonials

All content
© FlopTurnRiver.com 		Advertising  |   Partners  |   Testimonials  |   T&C  |   Contact Us  |   FTR News & Press  |   Site Map  |   Search FTR

Full Tilt  |   Titan Poker  |   UltimateBet  |   Poker Stars  |   Ladbrokes Bonus  |   Sportsbook  |   Cake Poker  

Play Texas Holdem Online, Online Texas Holdem Strategy, & Poker Forum
This is not a gambling website.