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Wolverine42

05-14-2005, 02:52 PM Post subject: KK hand

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Join Date: Mar 2005

Location: Massachusetts

Posts: 30

Just curious if you guys would have played this different I was afraid of the flush and wanted to take it down, should I have slow played it and sucked some more chips out of this guy?

PokerStars Game #1695586757: Tournament #7921033, Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2005/05/14 - 10:38:26 (ET)
Table '7921033 1' Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: ab1183 (2285 in chips)
Seat 2: FAPPO (1440 in chips)
Seat 3: vernona1 (470 in chips)
Seat 4: WMass_42 (1455 in chips)
Seat 5: Gene632 (1175 in chips)
Seat 6: RamDude (1700 in chips)
Seat 7: BigMec (1513 in chips)
Seat 8: Amashstat (1775 in chips)
Seat 9: sas410 (1687 in chips)
Amashstat: posts small blind 15
sas410: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to WMass_42 [Ks Kd]
ab1183: folds
FAPPO: calls 30
vernona1: calls 30
WMass_42: calls 30
Gene632: calls 30
RamDude: calls 30
BigMec: calls 30
Amashstat: folds
sas410: checks
*** FLOP *** [6c Jh Kh]
sas410: checks
FAPPO: checks
vernona1: checks
WMass_42: checks
Gene632: checks
RamDude: checks
BigMec: bets 135
sas410: folds
FAPPO: folds
vernona1: folds
WMass_42: raises 135 to 270
Gene632: folds
RamDude: folds
BigMec: calls 135
*** TURN *** [6c Jh Kh] [2h]
WMass_42: bets 700
BigMec: folds
WMass_42 collected 765 from pot
WMass_42: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 765 | Rake 0
Board [6c Jh Kh 2h]
Seat 1: ab1183 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: FAPPO folded on the Flop
Seat 3: vernona1 folded on the Flop
Seat 4: WMass_42 collected (765)
Seat 5: Gene632 folded on the Flop
Seat 6: RamDude folded on the Flop
Seat 7: BigMec (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 8: Amashstat (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: sas410 (big blind) folded on the Flop

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face

05-14-2005, 03:46 PM

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Join Date: Jan 2005

Posts: 187

You have to raise preflop with this hand. What were you trying to do?
What would you have done if an ace flopped? That said, bet the flop hard, don't checkraise. This is not a hand to print money with.

Wolverine42

05-16-2005, 12:39 PM

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Location: Massachusetts

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Yes I should have raised something preflop this is true, but it was early on in the SnG and I was playing way too conservitavely. That was definetly my biggest flaw in this hand, but my main question is would anyone have played this differently post flop. Was I too worried about the flush? Should I have seen if I could taken him for more money or was it the right call to take the pot down right there?

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drmcboy

05-16-2005, 02:22 PM

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DrButtInski
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Join Date: Aug 2004

Posts: 9,602

Not raising with KK here is not conservative play, it's bad play. You have two already in, your call just giving better odds behind you.

Then you check with two hearts plus a str8 draw out. Everyone and their brother is in the hand, SOMEONE has two hearts or Q10 or some combination, you must bet the pot here.

Then pretty much the last card you want to see comes and you put in a bet that, if you get re raised, you must call even though you're likely behind.

betting 1/2 -2/3 of the pot on the turn gives the wrong odds to call, the only hand that calls you here has you beat, or maybe someone unlucky enough to hit a set/two pair along with you... but you have to think that person would have sense enough to bet before this point. You are either way ahead or way behind, not the point you want to move in at.

Wolverine42

05-16-2005, 04:10 PM

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Join Date: Mar 2005

Location: Massachusetts

Posts: 30

I agree its bad play. I've been limping into too many pots, I actually didn't notice it until I posted two hand's here in the history section. I need to get way more aggressive pre-flop and I need to get more aggressive in general when I have strong hands. I have been limping a lot early on in SnG's.

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