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Old 05-31-2006, 05:29 AM     Post subject: KK hand at 50NL #1 (permalink)  
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Is this line at all reasonable? Villian is 35/7 over small sample.

POKERSTARS GAME #5106475216: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2006/05/31 - 01:16:52 (ET)
Table 'Lumen II' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Ernchips ($50.15 in chips)
Seat 2: stonedbluff3 ($40.80 in chips)
Seat 3: Ajax99 ($26.40 in chips)
Seat 4: qwert1122 ($12.75 in chips)
Seat 5: H-BOMB151 ($75.15 in chips)
Seat 6: Rockymv ($74.65 in chips)
Seat 7: eddys0907 ($26.15 in chips)
Seat 8: II Eric II ($50.20 in chips)
Seat 9: alsingpm ($38.70 in chips)
alsingpm: posts small blind $0.25
Ernchips: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Rockymv [Ks Kc]
stonedbluff3: folds
Ajax99: folds
qwert1122: folds
H-BOMB151: folds
Rockymv: raises $1.50 to $2
eddys0907: folds
II Eric II: folds
alsingpm: folds
Ernchips: raises $3 to $5
Rockymv: calls $3
*** FLOP *** [5d 9c Qc]
Ernchips: bets $3
Rockymv: raises $6 to $9
Ernchips: calls $6
*** TURN *** [5d 9c Qc] [4h]
Ernchips: bets $5
Rockymv: calls $5
*** RIVER *** [5d 9c Qc 4h] [7d]
Ernchips: bets $11
Rockymv: calls $11
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Old 05-31-2006, 05:44 AM #2 (permalink)  
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AQ vs. your Kings?
Looks good given that you're going for showdown and keeping the pot reasonable since you haven't improved.
And also keeping him aggressive rather than chasing him out.
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Old 05-31-2006, 08:32 AM #3 (permalink)  
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I think it's a good line. It's possible you're beat here, but I can't believe he'll give you 4:1 odds on the flop with 2 clubs showing if he has AA or QQ. After he calls your flop raise you're in cheap showdown mode, which is good, and his bets are tiny relative to the pot so it's no problem calling.
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Old 05-31-2006, 08:36 AM #4 (permalink)  
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I play this hand faster, for better or worse.

As played, I like a river min-raise.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
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Old 05-31-2006, 09:10 AM #5 (permalink)  
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I play this hand faster
Same, I think you're up against AQ, KQ or worse quite often here
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Old 05-31-2006, 03:51 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I play this hand faster
Same, I think you're up against AQ, KQ or worse quite often here
he reraised from the BB preflop.....
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Old 05-31-2006, 04:18 PM #7 (permalink)  
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I play this hand faster
Same, I think you're up against AQ, KQ or worse quite often here
he reraised from the BB preflop.....
I think AQ is possible, but nothing worse unless he's really laggy. If I don't have many hands on a NL50 player I usually give him credit for a re-raise range of JJ+,AQ+. Too generous?
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I play this hand faster
Same, I think you're up against AQ, KQ or worse quite often here
he reraised from the BB preflop.....
I think AQ is possible, but nothing worse unless he's really laggy. If I don't have many hands on a NL50 player I usually give him credit for a re-raise range of JJ+,AQ+. Too generous?
It seems to me that it would take a unique player, even among the really bad ones, to min-reraise AQ preflop from the BB. AA and QQ are both very likely, and both have me beat. I can only imagine being ahead of JJ or maybe TT.
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What about 3betting PF?
 
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It seems to me that it would take a unique player, even among the really bad ones, to min-reraise AQ preflop from the BB.
I disagree. He could be a good player with AQs trying to take it down pre-flop, or he could have noticed your PFR of 10% and is trying to play back at you with a variety of cards. I do think you're beat more than half the time on this flop, but he keeps giving you pot odds, so I think you have to call him down.

Is re-raising $3 pre-flop into a $2.75 pot a min-reraise? Is this a bad play? If it is, what's a good sized reraise?
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Old 05-31-2006, 05:40 PM #11 (permalink)  
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oops...you're right it wasn't a minreraise...still pretty small though.

i just think the vast majority of the time this AA or QQ.
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i just think the vast majority of the time this AA or QQ.
Then why reraise on the flop? Just calling keeps the pot smaller and if another club falls on the turn you can semibluff/represent the flush. If you're confident in your AA/QQ read, I like this line best.
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Old 05-31-2006, 05:48 PM #13 (permalink)  
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i just think the vast majority of the time this AA or QQ.
Then fold on the flop when you figure to make the smallest FtoP mistake.
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You have no excuse for not going deep in this spot. Often this is a blind defense gone terribly awry for villain. He's taking an AQ line all day long. Stronger hands check raise the turn or 3-bet the flop. They don't lead the turn, because it doesn't stimulate hero to put more money in.

Ever get the feeling villain wants a showdown on 4th street?
It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
 
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Old 05-31-2006, 07:00 PM #15 (permalink)  
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He's taking an AQ line all day long.
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Ever get the feeling villain wants a showdown on 4th street?
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As played, I like a river min-raise.
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