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martindcx1e
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05-19-2008, 09:24 PM
Post subject: KK Hand 140bb deep
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Ok doing this one from memory...
$25nl / 9 Players
Villain is like a 12/10 type and hasn't done anything noteworthy. We both have $35 stacks.
UTG raises to $.85
Folds to Hero who is on BTN and has :Kd: :Kh:
Hero raises to $2.50
Folds to UTG
UTG calls $1.65
Flop: :Jc:   (Pot is $5.35)
UTG checks, Hero bets$3, UTG calls $3
Turn:  (Pot is $11.35)
UTG bets $6, Hero calls $6
River:  (Pot is $23.35)
What do you do if UTG checks?
What do you do if UTG bets $12?
What do you do if UTG shoves (PSB)?
What do you put villain on after the flop c/c? What do you put him on after leading the turn?
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badgers
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shove/call/call
looks like ~88+/33/sometimes AJ if he sucks
Also, minraising the turn is a fun line here.
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martindcx1e
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Originally Posted by badgers
shove/call/call
looks like ~88+/33/sometimes AJ if he sucks
Also, minraising the turn is a fun line here.
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you really think mid pairs are firing the turn?
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Bet/shove/call his range is a jack and 55
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weak ass flop bet
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badgers
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Originally Posted by martindcx1e
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Originally Posted by badgers
shove/call/call
looks like ~88+/33/sometimes AJ if he sucks
Also, minraising the turn is a fun line here.
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you really think mid pairs are firing the turn? |
after your weak ass cbet, yes.
edit: wow i didn't even read muzz's post. telepathy!
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all in no matter what not close
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all in no matter what not close
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This. I'll quote you below for funzies
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Originally Posted by daven
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I honestly don't come across many hands at all where I feel I played wrong or felt lost at some point.
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Leak?
Regardless, wow! I wish I was that disciplined - i knowingly play hands wrongly way too often. |
lol i really don't think it's a leak. i've just played so many hands overall, i'm really disciplined, and i don't tilt. i do try to offer my advice to other ppl's hh's as much as i can so it's not like i'm just in my own little world. |
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I raise his turn bet like it's my job.
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martindcx1e
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all in no matter what not close
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This. I'll quote you below for funzies
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Originally Posted by martindcx1e
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Originally Posted by daven
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Originally Posted by martindcx1e
I honestly don't come across many hands at all where I feel I played wrong or felt lost at some point.
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Leak?
Regardless, wow! I wish I was that disciplined - i knowingly play hands wrongly way too often. |
lol i really don't think it's a leak. i've just played so many hands overall, i'm really disciplined, and i don't tilt. i do try to offer my advice to other ppl's hh's as much as i can so it's not like i'm just in my own little world. |
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what's your problem muzz? i came across a hand i wasn't sure about and i posted it here. chill out. how long have you been waiting to use that quote? jeez.
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I'm not sure shoving is best in option B if he's 12/10 over a large sample because I don't expect him to have a J very much unless our image is terribad and the only worse hand calling is QQ. AA/JJ/33/55 are all possiblities...
But yeah definately shove if checked to and call a shove.
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lol, on a serious note post more hands IMO as you weren't beating 10nl too big. There's no way you couldn't be lost in some hands/played them wrong if you were scraping like 1ptbb/100 or whatever. (I'm making these figures up, correct me if I'm way off - not including RB obv)
I haven't got an issue, I want to see you move up/develop just like I would with any other player on here. ... and I sincerely mean that.
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this is entirely dependent on what type of 12/10 he is and his image of you. if he folds QQ to a felt, as some players will to some players, then you want to bet small enough to keep it in. if he doesn't fold QQ to a felt then shoving turn or river is fine since there's a lot in the pot. overall i prefer calling turn and putting the rest in on river since it gives him rope and makes it a wee bit easier to call with TT than if we just raised the turn.
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martindcx1e
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Originally Posted by XTR1000
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i think you are the only one to say fold to a push. care to explain more?
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QQ knows it gets value from nothing and AA knows it gets value from KK QQ
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