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Old 08-05-2009, 07:51 PM     Post subject: KK Facing Min Bet on Turn and Riv Shove #1 (permalink)  
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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K, K
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, Hero bets $2, 6 folds, UTG+1 calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.75) 9, 3, 8 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $3.50, UTG+1 calls $3.50

Turn: ($11.75) 6 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $6, UTG+1 raises to $12, Hero calls $6

River: ($35.75) Q (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $22.25 (All-In)

I just sat down at the table, his stats were something along the lines of 20/13/65, not many reads on him either
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Old 08-05-2009, 08:10 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Please make a bigger turn bet and define his hand there IMO. As played, i'd call his minraise and fold to his river shove.
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Old 08-05-2009, 10:13 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Please make a bigger turn bet and define his hand there IMO. As played, i'd call his minraise and fold to his river shove.
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Old 08-05-2009, 10:35 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Please make a bigger turn bet and define his hand there IMO. As played, i'd call his minraise and fold to his river shove.
This is the worst line imo. Do you think he has JT a lot? Or for some reason do you think villain will c/minraise bluff a lot and the give up when the river comes an overcard? Any of fold, call/call or shove are better depending on what we think of villain. I think folding turn is best with the stats given and no reads.

Turn bet sizing def too small.
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 B/F the turn. Turn sizing should be about $7.50-$8
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Old 08-06-2009, 01:34 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Please make a bigger turn bet and define his hand there IMO. As played, i'd call his minraise and fold to his river shove.
This is the worst line imo. Do you think he has JT a lot? Or for some reason do you think villain will c/minraise bluff a lot and the give up when the river comes an overcard? Any of fold, call/call or shove are better depending on what we think of villain. I think folding turn is best with the stats given and no reads.

Turn bet sizing def too small.
if you make such a small bet and got minraised, you are going to fold vs an unknown donkey player? He might semi-bluff with combo draws on this turn or just make some fancy play. If hero threw out a bigger turn bet, then I can see the point of folding anyways.
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If you think he has missed draws a lot on the turn then you have to call river. You're getting shoved on any river a huge % of the time with these stack sizes so we need to make our decision on the turn
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